14:04:35 <doron> #startmeeting oVirt Weekly Sync 14:04:35 <ovirtbot> Meeting started Wed Aug 6 14:04:35 2014 UTC. The chair is doron. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:04:35 <ovirtbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 14:04:47 <awels> doron: here 14:04:48 <bkp> Sure! 14:04:49 <lvernia> Welcome back doron :) 14:04:50 <doron> #topic Agenda and roll Call 14:04:51 <doron> #info infra update 14:04:53 <doron> #info 3.4.z updates 14:04:53 * bkp here 14:04:54 <doron> #info 3.5 status 14:04:56 <doron> #info conferences and workshops 14:04:57 <doron> #info other topics 14:05:03 <doron> lvernia: thanks, good to be back :) 14:05:13 * danken is here 14:05:17 * sbonazzo here 14:05:18 * lvernia is here, evidently. 14:05:28 <doron> first of all a big THANK YOU to bkp for filling-in while I was away. 14:05:48 <doron> let's start with infra updates 14:05:54 <doron> #topic infra update 14:06:00 <doron> dcaro: eedri here? 14:06:21 <dcaro> doron: hey 14:06:30 <doron> dcaro: how is ovirt infra doing? 14:06:51 <dcaro> phx lab network is already configured, lacking small details, hosted engine is already running and 2 hosts already added to the setup 14:07:11 <dcaro> hopefully this week we can start creating vms and using them on jenkins 14:07:14 <doron> dcaro: is there an eta for phx? 14:07:23 <eedri> dcaro, +1 14:07:42 <sbonazzo> dcaro++ 14:08:04 <bkp> Yay, dcaro! 14:08:18 <eedri> doron, last week solved tickets: http://goo.gl/6o62T6 14:08:22 <doron> eedri: do we have a plan of what migrates when? ie- ehwn will jenkins move? when will gerrit? ovirt.org, etc? 14:08:28 <eedri> doron, yes 14:08:49 <eedri> doron, 1st stage (after all hypervisors are added + storage) 14:08:51 <dcaro> doron: friday we should be creating slaves 14:08:52 <doron> eedri: can we share it somewhere so fplks can prepare? 14:09:07 <doron> s/fplks/folks 14:09:11 <eedri> doron, is migrating jenkins slaves and decommisions rackspace 14:09:31 <eedri> doron, run it for some time and then when we're confident start migrating production vms 14:09:53 <eedri> doron, sure, i think it's somewhere on the wiki 14:10:02 <doron> eedri: link? 14:10:22 * eedri looking 14:11:23 <eedri> doron, i'll send it to the list 14:11:30 <doron> #info phx lab in final step. Initial Jenkins slaves expected this Friday. More details will be published in the list. 14:11:42 <doron> eedri: dcaro thank you and well done. 14:11:58 <doron> moving on 14:12:00 <doron> #topic 3.4.z updates 14:12:04 <doron> sbonazzo: here? 14:12:07 <eedri> #info infra tickets solved last week http://goo.gl/6o62T6 14:12:13 <sbonazzo> doron: yes 14:12:30 <doron> eedri: thanks :) 14:12:34 <sbonazzo> doron sent status this morning here: http://lists.ovirt.org/pipermail/users/2014-August/026543.html 14:12:45 <sbonazzo> doron: we're nearly the same as last week 14:12:51 <doron> sbonazzo: highlights? 14:13:03 <sbonazzo> doron: GA date postponed by one week due to lack of release engineers 14:13:28 <doron> sbonazzo: any blockers? 14:13:35 <sbonazzo> doron: 7 bugs still to be addressed 14:13:40 <sbonazzo> doron: no blockers 14:13:57 <doron> sbonazzo: very well, thanks. Let's see how it evolves. 14:14:02 <sbonazzo> doron: ok 14:14:24 <danken> sbonazzo: ready link to the 3.4.z bugs? 14:14:39 <doron> #info 3.4.z updates: GA date postponed by one week, 7 bugs still to be addressed, no current blockers. Full info available in: http://lists.ovirt.org/pipermail/users/2014-August/026543.html 14:14:45 <sbonazzo> doron: http://red.ht/1sQDLwg 14:15:25 <doron> #info relevant bugs: http://red.ht/1sQDLwg 14:15:27 <doron> sbonazzo: thanks 14:15:45 <doron> let's see how 3.5 is doing; 14:15:48 <doron> #topic 3.5 status 14:15:57 <doron> sbonazzo: how are we doing here? 14:16:11 <sbonazzo> doron: sent status this morning here: http://lists.ovirt.org/pipermail/users/2014-August/026544.html 14:16:16 <sbonazzo> we still have one blocker 14:16:25 <sbonazzo> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1124099 14:16:26 <danken> sbonazzo: I know that RC has been composed, but I think we should wait for http://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/q/status:open+project:vdsm+branch:ovirt-3.5+topic:livemerge-3.5,n,z 14:16:49 <sbonazzo> danken: we need another RC anyway, we can't release with blockers 14:16:54 <danken> it's the crown jewel feature, and I'd rather have these patches in. 14:17:00 <sbonazzo> danken: I suggest an RC2 on monday 14:17:20 <alitke> danken, I am waiting for one more micro-api from Eric Blake as well 14:17:21 <danken> sbonazzo: good, I just want all live merge backports in. 14:17:34 <mlipchuk> doron: Currently https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1124099 is pending on UI review 14:17:36 <danken> alitke: which blocks backport? 14:17:40 <sbonazzo> danken: add a blocker to the tracker so we can track it 14:17:43 <alitke> so I'd like to get 2 more vdsm patches into master and backport 14:17:58 <danken> alitke: ah 14:18:05 <alitke> It allows for internal volume resizing on block storage domains 14:18:06 <sbonazzo> doron: we also have issues with ovirt-optimizer dependencies on EL6 14:18:18 <danken> alitke: could you add your backport bug as a 3.5.0 blocker? 14:18:19 <sbonazzo> doron: and infra issues with building vdsm on EL7 14:18:26 <alitke> and the other patch enables us to handle an obscure negative flow 14:18:35 <alitke> danken, sure 14:19:01 <doron> sbonazzo: el6 or el7? 14:19:26 <sbonazzo> doron: ovirt-optimizer dependencies on EL6, vdsm on EL7: it's needed for hosted engine running on EL7 hosts 14:19:54 <danken> sbonazzo: what's with vdsm on el7 ? 14:20:18 <alitke> danken, I think it already was marked a blocker 14:20:24 <sbonazzo> danken: it failed one test on job 65 and then the host become unreachable 14:20:29 <danken> alitke: ah, silly me. thanks. 14:20:38 <doron> so... 14:20:39 <alitke> danken, I'll create separate bugs for the other two issues. 14:20:51 <doron> looks like rc2 is needed. when should we expect it? 14:20:55 <sbonazzo> danken: see https://fedorahosted.org/ovirt/ticket/242 - vdsm_3.5_create-rpms_merged broken on EL7 slave 14:21:11 <eedri> doron, aug 11 14:21:17 <eedri> doron, according to the schedule 14:21:22 <sbonazzo> doron: if all blockers are fixed, we can try to compose on monday so we can use it on Tue for 3rd test day 14:21:48 <doron> danken: do you think the live migration will make it for the above dates? 14:22:28 <danken> doron: live merge is there as it is 14:22:51 <danken> doron: but some cleanup work can be merged today (if ybronheim tkes it) 14:22:58 <doron> danken: I'm asking about alitke's patch set. 14:23:34 <danken> doron: yes, they'll be in 14:23:45 <doron> danken: thanks. 14:23:54 <alitke> As for the extra two things, those should be doable with a concerted review effort. 14:23:55 <danken> doron: but please add an action item on ybronheim to review and take them 14:23:57 <doron> Anyone else has reservations for RC2? 14:24:08 <alitke> We should check with gpadgett and rnori about the engine side though 14:24:25 <sbonazzo> gpadgett: the blocker still on post is assigned on you, eta? https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1124099 14:24:45 <danken> apuimedo: have you seen brctl failing on el7 http://jenkins.ovirt.org/job/vdsm_3.5_create-rpms_merged/65/label=centos7/console ? 14:24:45 <danken> sbonazzo: is it reproducible? 14:24:53 <gpadgett> alitke, sbonazzo: sec, reading 14:25:00 <doron> #action ybronheim to make sure we have http://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/q/status:open+project:vdsm+branch:ovirt-3.5+topic:livemerge-3.5,n,z ready for Aug 11. 14:25:34 <sbonazzo> danken: looks like infra restarted the slave somehow and now seems to work 14:25:45 <gpadgett> sbonazzo: waiting on review for that one, so as soon as it's +1'd we can merge and I can backport it. Will ping some people about that 14:26:01 <sbonazzo> gpadgett: thanks 14:26:14 <alitke> Just added https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1109920 as a release blocker 14:26:19 <danken> sbonazzo: I don't like the sound of thiss... do you know if NetworkManager is running on that host? 14:26:37 <sbonazzo> danken: no idea. please sync with eedri / dcaro 14:26:38 <alitke> gpadgett, Any other negative flows that need to be handled on engine side before 3.5 can be released? 14:26:58 <doron> sbonazzo: what is the version / blocker tracker? 14:27:12 <dcaro> doron: iirc the job did stop network manager itself right? 14:27:22 <sbonazzo> doron: bug #1073943 14:27:40 <gpadgett> alitke: you emailed me about one recently that I think needs to be handled, should be fairly easy. I'll try to get a patch out today for it. 14:28:21 <alitke> gpadgett, Might want to formalize it with a bug that can be tracked for release purposes. You'll need it anyway in order to merge into the 3.5 branch. 14:28:22 <doron> sbonazzo: thanks we have 4 open blockers? 14:28:31 <apuimedo> danken: probably slow to take the device down 14:28:37 <apuimedo> before brctl delbr 14:28:39 <doron> #info version tracker: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/showdependencytree.cgi?id=1073943&hide_resolved=1 14:28:44 <apuimedo> rarely it happens on my f20 14:28:49 <gpadgett> alitke: yes, agreed, will handle the bz too 14:29:27 <doron> apuimedo: danken is seems that https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1041569 is blcoking us? 14:29:32 <danken> apuimedo: what is "slow to take the device down"? 14:30:04 <doron> ie- blocking live merge bz assigned to alitke 14:30:04 <sbonazzo> doron: looks like so 14:30:31 <apuimedo> danken: it might be that it takes a bit too long to down the device which may be needed for the delbr 14:30:34 <doron> alitke: do we have an eta for this issue? 14:30:37 <danken> doron: don't tell anyone, but I think we can release 3.5.0 without internal-resize-while-live-merge 14:31:13 <doron> danken: if this so then the libvirt bz should not be a blocker. 14:31:18 <alitke> danken / doron: fsimonce does not agree. 14:31:38 <alitke> we need the code to take advantage of an eventual libvirt api 14:31:47 <alitke> so this bz covers the vdsm changes, not the libvirt ones. 14:32:02 <alitke> I need to get the API from eblake so I can write the vdsm code. 14:32:07 <alitke> Should be a minor change 14:32:16 <alitke> in vdsm since the plumbing is already there 14:32:23 <doron> alitke: danken please discuss it offline. I'll re-cap next week as this is currently a blocker. 14:32:37 <alitke> ok 14:32:55 <doron> gpadgett: IIUC https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1124099 should be resolved soon? 14:32:57 <apuimedo> danken: basically ifdown returns before the kernel has it down 14:33:05 <apuimedo> and immediately after we try to remove 14:33:08 <apuimedo> and it fails 14:33:11 <gpadgett> doron: yes, working on getting my reviews now 14:33:12 <sbonazzo> doron: last highlight on 3.5, we still havemore than 400 bugs open, and for an RC I think we should start re-targeting them 14:33:12 <apuimedo> cause it is not down yet 14:33:27 <danken> apuimedo: ahh, anothe initscript race? 14:33:34 <apuimedo> danken: no 14:33:42 <apuimedo> rather a kernel one 14:33:50 <apuimedo> we use ip link set dev foo down 14:33:51 <doron> sbonazzo: agreed. 14:34:08 <apuimedo> or iproute2 race, if you will 14:34:09 <danken> apuimedo: oh, the old "it's not a race, it's designed to be async" line. 14:34:15 <apuimedo> yup 14:34:37 <doron> sbonazzo: I suggest that post rc2 we should produce a report based on whiteboard group, and mail it to the list. So relevant groups can start retargetting. 14:34:44 <apuimedo> I wouldn't mind if iproute2 added a flag to wait for confirmation :P 14:34:50 <doron> gpadgett: thanks. 14:35:16 <danken> apuimedo: someone needs to sync the operations... and if it's not kernel/iproteu2/initscripts - its us. 14:35:18 <doron> alitke: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1124445 seems to be blocking us as well. is there an ETA for it? 14:35:34 <sbonazzo> doron: ok 14:35:41 <apuimedo> danken: (it's the worst place of doing it though) 14:36:30 <alitke> doron, looking 14:36:39 <doron> veery well. 14:36:55 <doron> until we finalize the blocking bz's. 14:37:10 <doron> does anyone have any other updates on 3.5.0 status? 14:37:11 <alitke> doron, That is being fixed in upstream libvirt. It does not need to block our release 14:37:34 <doron> alitke: if so then it should not block 1115127 14:37:46 <alitke> ok, I'll update it 14:37:47 <doron> alitke: you can add it as 'see lso'. 14:37:52 <doron> (also). thanks 14:38:12 <doron> veyr well. 14:38:49 <doron> So... 14:39:26 <doron> #info 3.5.0 has ~2 real blockers, will track it next week. RC2 expected on time. 14:39:59 <doron> #info 3.5.0 post RC2 teams should start retarget 3.5.0 bugs. 14:40:14 <doron> anything else related to 3.5.0? 14:41:02 <sbonazzo> doron: the brocken dep on ovirt-optimizer 14:41:02 <doron> very well. Let's move on. 14:41:31 <doron> sbonazzo: we'll handle it early next week when it's maintainer will be back. 14:41:48 <sbonazzo> doron: ok 14:41:51 <doron> sbonazzo: unless there's something else we need to do for it? 14:42:05 <sbonazzo> doron: no, I think we can wait 14:42:10 <doron> very well. 14:42:13 <doron> Moving on. 14:42:24 <doron> #topic conferences and workshops 14:42:33 <doron> bkp: long time :) 14:42:49 <bkp> Indeed, Vacation Man! First off, welcome back doron! These folks are mad, I tell you, mad! :) 14:43:02 <doron> Thanks ;) 14:43:06 <bkp> A couple of things... 14:43:15 <bkp> LinuxCon NA has now added an Infrastructure.Next track and will now have two oVort-related talks--a general overview session from ybronhei and a discussion og mature open source communities from me. We *may* also have a talk (topic to be determined) from sherold. 14:43:22 <bkp> *oVirt 14:43:34 <bkp> KVM Forum is coming along. There are 15 Red Hat staffers who have submitted talks, though it looks like just two directly related to oVirt. 14:44:15 <bkp> That's basically it... still firming up talks for oVirt Workshop in Dusseldoerf and at Fossetcon. 14:44:34 <doron> #info LinuxCon NA added an Infrastructure.Next track; 2-3 ovirt related sesions expected. 14:45:33 <doron> #info kvm forum status: 15 Red Hat staffers who have submitted talks, only 2 directly related to ovirt. 14:45:53 <doron> bkp: iirc linux con may also host a few related talks? 14:46:15 <bkp> LinuxCon NA? Yes. 14:47:06 <doron> bkp: there's a linux con that is next to kvm forum 14:47:14 <doron> so we may see additional sessions there. 14:47:40 <bkp> LinuxCon EU, yes, but I have no insight on what talks were accepted for that yet. 14:47:50 <doron> bkp: very well, thanks! 14:48:01 <doron> #topic other topics 14:48:15 <doron> anyone wants to raise anything for discussion? 14:48:25 <bkp> I will be on PTO next week (Aug. 11-15), driving around the East Coast, looking for America. Or, y'know, visiting potential colleges with my middle daughter. 14:48:50 <doron> #info bkp will be in PTO next week 14:48:56 <doron> bkp: enjoy the sun :) 14:49:00 <bkp> Talked to Tuleap about configuring/hosting a marketplace for plugins on ovirt.org (and ManageIQ). But at 700 euro/month, it's looking more likely we will need to set something up on our own. Probably when we switch the site over from MediaWiki. 14:49:24 <bkp> No actions with this lat, just an update. 14:49:28 <bkp> *last 14:49:51 <doron> bkp: is the quote for infrastructure or something else? 14:50:08 <awels> bkp: Let me know if you are near Myrtle Beach during that time. 14:50:27 <bkp> Either they host it for us, or we host and they provide management software. Either way, price is the same. 14:51:13 <doron> bkp: we can help with hosting with the new phx coming soon. 14:51:28 <doron> but if the price is the same we'll wait for the new site layout. 14:51:29 <bkp> awels, Durham, NC is the closest on my itinerary. 14:51:44 <bkp> doron: Agreed. Kind of pricey. 14:51:48 <awels> bkp: That is like 4 hours away.. oh well 14:51:58 <doron> bkp: is there an eta for the transition? 14:52:30 <doron> bkp: if you're around VA try lurie caverns... 14:52:34 <bkp> No, garrett is still working on re-doing the gcc site, and then he will turn attention to ovirt.org 14:53:10 <bkp> Yeah, my 17-year-old daughter will love a cave. :) 14:53:22 <doron> bkp: very well. worth synciung with eedri and dcaro for the new phx lab. 14:53:33 <bkp> doron: Acknowledged 14:53:39 <doron> ok. 14:53:42 <doron> anyting else? 14:53:44 <bkp> If they will share. :) 14:53:50 <bkp> Nothing from me. 14:53:54 <doron> bkp: trust me, they will.... 14:54:52 <doron> last chance to speak before next week's meeting. Going once... 14:55:32 <doron> Going twice... 14:56:20 <doron> bkp: happy tracking! thanks everyone, see you next week. Be good... 14:56:23 <doron> #endmeeting