14:05:00 <doron> #startmeeting oVirt Weekly Sync
14:05:00 <ovirtbot> Meeting started Wed Jun 11 14:05:00 2014 UTC.  The chair is doron. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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14:05:01 <doron> #topic Agenda and roll Call
14:05:03 <doron> #info infra update
14:05:04 <doron> #info 3.4.z updates
14:05:05 <amureini> hi doronm, guys
14:05:06 <doron> #info 3.5 status
14:05:07 <doron> #info conferences and workshops
14:05:09 <doron> #info other topics
14:05:24 <doron> hi amureinim
14:05:32 * sbonazzo here for integration
14:05:32 <doron> #topic infra update
14:05:47 <doron> dcaro: orc_orc infra updates?
14:06:06 <amureini> doron, had that one comming, if guess ;-)
14:06:18 <doron> amureini: what?
14:06:26 <dcaro> we had a major meltdown of the gerrit server yesterday, we are trying to leverage the load while investigating the causes
14:07:05 <doron> dcaro: thanks. Anything else?
14:07:19 <doron> #info infra updates: we had a major meltdown of the gerrit server yesterday, we are trying to leverage the load while investigating the causes
14:08:01 <dcaro> I will start replacing all the old os1 slaves for the new ones, but that should not break any jobs
14:08:08 * bkp here
14:08:33 <danken> might be all the rebases of jsonrpc patches ;-)
14:09:02 <doron> #info old os1 slaves soon to be replaced with the new ones. We do not expect interruption.
14:09:10 <doron> bkp: hey
14:09:17 <doron> dcaro: thanks
14:09:23 <doron> let's move on.
14:09:31 <doron> #topic 3.4.z updates
14:09:38 <doron> sbonazzo: 3,4,z status?
14:10:09 <sbonazzo> doron: 3.4.2 has been released yesterday, 3.4.3 release wiki pages and bug tracker are already in place. We need to decine timeline for 3.4.3
14:10:24 <sbonazzo> doron: http://www.ovirt.org/OVirt_3.4.z_release-management
14:10:45 <doron> sbonazzo: do we have something for 3.4.3 now?
14:11:05 <sbonazzo> doron: no blockers, only high and urgent bugs left over from 3.4.2
14:11:54 <doron> sbonazzo: so will a month be sufficient?
14:12:02 <doron> ie- july 15?
14:13:09 <sbonazzo> doron: I can't provide an ETA for all the bugs but we can try to keep the 1 month schedule
14:13:18 * lvernia is here, apologies for being late.
14:13:31 <sbonazzo> doron: in august we'll have 3.5.0 so this may be last 3.4.z
14:15:13 <doron> sbonazzo: very well. let's do RC in July 10 and GA in July 17. ok
14:15:14 <doron> ?
14:15:29 <danken> sbonazzo: am month sounds a good target
14:16:00 <amureini> sbonazzo, doron, bkp - do we have any adoption stats for 3.4.0/1/2? In other words - is the lack of open bugs a lack of bugs or a lack of people running into them yet?
14:16:04 <danken> and if there are no blockers, there is no reason not to meet it
14:16:08 <sbonazzo> doron: looks ok for me, but we should take note that July 16 is 3.5.0 RC date
14:16:34 <doron> sbonazzo: I know, this is why 3.4.3 should be a day later.
14:16:43 <sbonazzo> doron: ok for me
14:16:51 <doron> amureini: there's no lack of bugs. there's a lack of blockers which is a good thing.
14:16:51 <bkp> amureini: Building some stats now, but nothing conclusive at this time.
14:17:24 <sbonazzo> amureini: non urgent bugs have been retargeted to 3.5.0
14:17:28 <doron> any objections to RC in July 10 and GA in July 17?
14:17:41 <doron> any objections to 3.4.3 RC in July 10 and GA in July 17?
14:17:52 <amureini> doron, bkp, sbonazzo - thanks for clarifying. no objection here
14:17:58 <sbonazzo> doron: no objection here
14:18:07 <doron> thanks. danken?
14:19:35 <doron> I'll assume no further objections.
14:19:45 <danken> danken: none from me
14:19:53 <doron> danken: thanks
14:20:20 <doron> #info updated timeline for 3.4.z: 3.4.3 RC in July 10 and GA in July 17
14:20:31 <doron> sbonazzo: can you please update the wiki?
14:20:49 <sbonazzo> doron: wiki updated, updating calendar
14:21:00 <doron> sbonazzo: you're fast ;)
14:21:03 <doron> moving on
14:21:15 <doron> #topic 3.5 status
14:21:34 <doron> so... we're hitting feature freeze.
14:21:58 <doron> let's hear from the groups if they are ready for feature freeze this Sunday
14:22:15 <doron> sahina: here?
14:22:25 <sahina> doron, hi
14:22:38 <doron> hi sahina. are you set for Sunday?
14:22:57 <sahina> doron,  2 features done. for the volume capacity, we had to take another approach as we were stuck on the libgfapi-python dependency. there's 1 vdsm patch that needs to be merged now.
14:23:16 <sahina> doron, we should be able to make it by Sunday if we can get reviews
14:23:33 <doron> danken: any idea if someone can assist?
14:24:19 <danken> sahina: doron: how about bala and timothy?
14:24:34 <danken> have they reviewed and acked it? I do not recall a pending patch
14:24:52 <sahina> danken, yes - bala and tim have looked at it. bala yet to ack.
14:25:15 <sahina> danken, will ask darshan to ping u when bala has acked
14:25:42 <danken> sahina: best way to ping me is to mark it as verified + ack by bala
14:25:57 <sahina> danken, sure..will do
14:26:00 <danken> (but an email would not hurt)
14:26:10 <danken> which is the patch, btw, sahina?
14:26:28 <sahina> danken, http://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/c/28581
14:26:55 <doron> sahina: it looks like it's converging, so for now thanks.
14:27:00 <danken> sahina: heh, it's posted today
14:27:27 <doron> #info gluster 3.5 updates: 2 features merged. Last one pending a patch review in vdsm. Good chances for making it on time.
14:27:34 <doron> moving next to infra.
14:27:41 <doron> oved_: here?
14:27:45 <oved_> yes
14:27:48 <sahina> danken, yes - we had an earlier patch that depended on libgfapi-python..but the dependency was not ready. so changed the approach
14:27:52 <oved_> updates on infra features:
14:27:55 <doron> oved_: 3.5 status
14:27:59 <oved_> AAA and CommandCoordination - most code is in, but it is a stabilization phase so changes/additions are possible.
14:28:04 <oved_> ioprocess - verifying it now... if things go well it will make it on time.
14:28:07 <oved_> All the rest are in / will be in by feature freeze.
14:28:17 <danken> sahina: oh, ctypes. brrr
14:28:32 <oved_> oved_, that's it from me.
14:28:35 <doron> oved_: thanks.
14:28:39 <oved_> doron, that's it from me :-)
14:28:45 <oved_> doron, sure
14:29:20 <doron> #info infra 3.5 updates; most features are in. a few are being verified and some will need further stabilization.
14:29:57 <doron> oved_: please check the infra sdk and others
14:30:04 <doron> they are marked as in progress
14:30:06 <oved_> jhernand, ^^
14:30:13 <oved_> jhernand, any info on those?
14:31:16 <jhernand> oved_: Which ones?
14:31:21 <oved_> 855724	 [RFE] ovirt-engine-restapi : Statistic values representation issues
14:31:25 <oved_> 1069204	[RFE] Don't require live engine to generate SDK code
14:31:39 <oved_> (in the ovirt planning spreadsheet)
14:32:00 <jhernand> oved_: 855724 is done.
14:32:09 <jhernand> oved_: 1069204 won't be in.
14:32:30 <oved_> jhernand, okay. marking it as done, and the other as postponed.
14:33:12 <doron> #info infra REST 3.5 status: 1069204 RFE postponed.
14:33:20 <doron> moving next to integration
14:33:28 <doron> sbonazzo: here?
14:33:43 <sbonazzo> doron: yes
14:33:54 <doron> sbonazzo: integration 3.5 status?
14:33:57 <sbonazzo> iSCSI support for hosted engine has been merged yesterday
14:34:05 <doron> yey!
14:34:26 <sbonazzo> WGT iso is available for download on ovirt site
14:34:45 <doron> yey x2! and this is a new stuff :)
14:34:55 <sbonazzo> we're missing minor things like creating a rpm for shipping it and pre-populate iso domain
14:35:09 <sbonazzo> but the main issue is done
14:35:22 <doron> sbonazzo: this is fine. we have time to stabilize it.
14:35:46 <sbonazzo> websocket proxy and dwh on separate host have been verified, last review before merge is currently ongoing
14:35:56 <doron> sbonazzo: what about the other features? will they make it?
14:36:14 <sbonazzo> reports still have some work to be done, we'll try to have it in for sunday
14:36:48 <doron> sbonazzo: web proxy? dwh?
14:37:00 <sbonazzo> websocket proxy and dwh on separate host have been verified, last review before merge is currently ongoing
14:37:17 <doron> sbonazzo: so they should be able to make it as well.
14:37:23 <sbonazzo> doron: yes
14:37:27 <doron> sbonazzo: thanks
14:38:28 <doron> #info integration 3.5 updates: most features are in.Separate installation for dwh / reports / web proxy is in final stages and expected to make it.
14:38:48 <doron> moving next to network. lvernia here?
14:38:55 <lvernia> doron: Yes.
14:39:05 <doron> lvernia: hey, 3.5 updates/
14:39:06 <doron> ?
14:39:08 <lvernia> doron: All features planned for 3.5 are in.
14:39:15 <doron> lvernia: cool
14:39:28 <lvernia> doron: A couple were postponed after the meeting from two weeks ago.
14:39:38 <lvernia> doron: So... That's it for us :)
14:40:02 <doron> #info network 3.5 status: all set. several features postponed to the next version.
14:40:03 <lvernia> doron: (was already communicated two weeks ago on the mailing list)
14:40:06 <doron> lvernia: thanks.
14:40:18 <doron> moving next to node
14:40:23 <lvernia> doron: Not "several", just the two MAC pool features that had missed the original deadline.
14:40:28 <doron> fabiand: node 3.5 updates?
14:40:35 <fabiand> doron, hey there
14:40:38 <fabiand> Yep
14:40:43 <doron> #info network 3.5 status: all set. 2 features postponed to the next version.
14:40:48 <fabiand> generic registrartion is merged and on time for 3.5
14:40:51 <lvernia> Thank you... :)
14:40:56 <doron> lvernia:   ;)
14:41:07 <fabiand> hosted engine plugin just got merged and builds fine, now needs intensive testing
14:41:08 <doron> lv and remind me to talk to your lawyer
14:41:27 <lvernia> doron: You can't afford them...
14:41:33 <doron> fabiand: this is fine. we have stabilization for it.
14:41:38 <fabiand> ovirt virtual appliance is also there, review and final ova build is pending here
14:41:51 <fabiand> It is planned to get this reviewed until Friday
14:42:01 <doron> fabiand: cool, so you made it on time.
14:42:15 <fabiand> We did.
14:42:23 <fabiand> Well, let's see how it looks on 3.5 GA :)
14:42:42 <doron> #info node 3.5 status: 2 features are in. ovirt virt appliance should be in in the next day or so.
14:42:54 <doron> fabiand: it will be awesome...
14:43:04 <fabiand> :)
14:43:08 <doron> moving next to sla...
14:45:08 <doron> #infor sla 3.5 updates: 3 features merged. NUMA and QoS mostly there. We may need heavy stabilization post feature freeze for it.
14:46:07 <doron> #info sla 3.5 updates: 3 features merged. NUMA and QoS mostly there. We may need heavy stabilization post feature freeze for it. 1 feature postponed.
14:46:28 <doron> moving next to storage. amureini here?
14:46:36 <amureini> doron, yup, here.
14:46:44 <doron> amureini: 3.5 status?
14:47:10 <amureini> live merge - vdsm side almost ready, working on getting the patches to a mergable state by eod.
14:48:00 <doron> amureini: and everything else?
14:48:11 <amureini> doron - on the way.
14:48:17 <doron> amureini: based on the google doc you have features in coding
14:48:19 <amureini> doron, slow typer here
14:48:24 <doron> amureini: shoot.
14:48:35 <amureini> doron - "on the way" realted to the report, not the features -)
14:48:46 <doron> :)
14:49:08 <amureini> live merge - engine side - rebuilding on top of infra's CoCo framework, aiming for eow
14:49:57 <amureini> attach/detach - basic functionality in. msd will be supported by eod. gui targeted to eow, might be a bit of a crunch
14:50:17 <amureini> exp/imp (i.e., attach/detach ++) will be pushed out
14:50:23 <amureini> others done
14:50:38 <amureini> live merge will probably need a heavy stabilization period
14:50:51 <amureini> that's storage in a nutshell
14:52:33 <doron> nutshell... ok ;)
14:52:43 <amureini> doron, big nutshell `-)
14:52:50 <doron> indeed.
14:53:14 <doron> amureini: import existing data domain?
14:53:35 <amureini> "<amureini> exp/imp (i.e., attach/detach ++) will be pushed out"
14:53:46 <amureini> doron, ^^
14:53:59 <doron> yes, looking for the dictionary.
14:54:15 <amureini> sorry, former oracle nerd terminology
14:54:23 * amureini commits harikiri
14:54:53 <bkp> Darn, no scotch for me amureini
14:55:44 <doron> #info storage 3.5 updates: most features are in. Exceptions: live merge - engine side, , aiming for eo. attach/detach - basic functionality in, the rest should be by eow. exp/imp will be postponed.
14:55:49 <doron> amureini: thanks
14:56:12 <doron> ux, awels any updates?
14:56:26 <awels> doron: Nothing new from UX, same feature still in
14:56:37 <doron> amureini: just for the record, did you postpone sanlock fencing?
14:56:46 <doron> awels: thanks
14:57:00 <doron> #info UX 3.5 updates: none. all set for 3.5.
14:57:11 <doron> mskrivanek: here?
14:57:21 * mskrivanek here
14:57:27 <doron> mskrivanek: virt 3.5 updates?
14:57:31 <amureini> doron, re:sanlock fencing - yup, we discussed this a couple of weeks ago
14:57:35 <mskrivanek> not much new...we were done even before:)
14:57:48 <doron> mskrivanek: you still have yellow lines in the doc
14:57:50 <mskrivanek> well, a nice thing....we finished sorting of the main tabs (pool,templates,vms)
14:58:03 <doron> mskrivanek: cool!
14:58:30 <doron> mskrivanek: what do we have for 3.5 on configure both SPICE and VNC display console?
14:58:51 <mskrivanek> we do have that vdsm part and not targetting the UI/engine side to 3.5
14:59:21 <doron> mskrivanek: so basically you have the infra but the feature is postponed to next version.
14:59:31 <mskrivanek> yes
14:59:44 <doron> mskrivanek: very well. what about rng?
15:00:28 <doron> that is virtio-rng
15:00:31 <mskrivanek> well, since the feature is not in EL 6.5....we don't rush with it. it's on review, it may get in in very near future....but it's not really important
15:00:58 <mskrivanek> http://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/c/26917/ would be nice to get in to close line 72 (again, very small feature, not worth waiting)
15:00:59 <doron> mskrivanek: from FF perspective it's postponed.
15:01:43 <mskrivanek> doron: well, it's half-way in already
15:02:02 <doron> mskrivanek: I know. but will it be available for testing?
15:02:04 <mskrivanek> doron: depends on the branch-off date I guess. it became rebasing madness
15:02:33 <doron> mskrivanek: for feature freeze we should have the API in place and the basic code.
15:02:52 <doron> ie- I do not expect vdsm to allow api changes post this date
15:03:01 <doron> this date == this Sunday
15:03:28 <mskrivanek> that is in
15:03:40 <mskrivanek> pending final touches
15:04:08 <mskrivanek> no api or vdsm changes
15:04:17 <mskrivanek> i'm optimistic, let's make it by Sunday!:-)
15:04:17 <doron> mskrivanek: so, assuming we have Branching - Beta release: 2014-06-26 will folks be able to use it?
15:05:16 <mskrivanek> yes
15:05:26 <doron> mskrivanek: thanks. Now what about disable spice file transfer & copy and paste?
15:05:38 <doron> (same constraints and dates)
15:06:06 <mskrivanek> depends on the fate of http://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/c/26917/
15:06:51 <doron> danken: any insights on the chances of this patch to make it on time?
15:07:08 <doron> danken:  or will you accept it post Sunday?
15:07:29 <mskrivanek> doron: but as i said, since it's a Fedora-only feature for now I don't consider it important enough
15:07:48 <doron> mskrivanek: so it may not make it eventually.
15:08:30 <doron> mskrivanek: finally, updates on: finish remaining PPC support (block/allow specific features) ?
15:09:34 <mskrivanek> due to urgent regression issues we lost focus a bit...there are still few outstanding patches. backend people are welcome to complete reviews
15:10:04 <doron> mskrivanek: very well, so it may not make it as well.
15:10:15 <danken> mskrivanek: would anything bad happen on el6 if this filetransfer is passed to libvirt?
15:10:19 <mskrivanek> but they are in fact of a bug nature...so depends on POV. PPC stuff is complete, there are some bugs to fix
15:10:48 <mskrivanek> danken: yes. it would fail the call (I think. fromani ^^ please correct me if I'm wrong)
15:11:05 <doron> #info virt 3.5 status: most features are in. virtio-rng should make it. others may slip.
15:11:21 <danken> mskrivanek: so we should require a specific libvirt version before we take this in. let's wait, then.
15:11:23 <doron> mskrivanek: bugs  shouldn't be here. You have time to fix them.
15:11:28 <mskrivanek> danken: however it's a much better situation that the fiasco with abort_on_eio this time:-)
15:11:28 <doron> ok.
15:11:40 <doron> so we're in a better shape now for feature freeze.
15:12:21 <doron> let's move in
15:12:23 <doron> let's move on
15:12:31 <mskrivanek> danken: I'm fine with "out" for that. However I'd like not to lose the patch and would like to see it accepted eventually...just give Francesco time to explain it's safe for el6. But agree not rush for 3.5
15:12:58 <doron> sbonazzo: we should start tracking 3.5 blockers next week. ok?
15:13:30 <fromani> mskrivanek: danken: libvirt will silently discard without harm the filetransfer flag; however, engine has no way to detect this and thus will falsely advertise a feature being present while it isn't (= will not work)
15:14:12 <doron> sbonazzo: ?
15:14:41 <mskrivanek> danken: fromani: ah, yeah. that's the important difference. I'm fine with that like this (we can always say in UI the actual results vary depending on host support)
15:15:54 <doron> #action sbonazzo starting next week we should start tracking 3.5 blockers next week.
15:15:58 <doron> moving on
15:16:04 <doron> #topic conferences and workshops
15:16:11 <doron> bkp: welcome back ;)
15:16:12 <bkp> Hey all
15:16:15 <bkp> Thanks!
15:16:18 <danken> mskrivanek: but I hate lying !
15:16:21 <bkp> Setting up an oVirt workshop to be co-located with KVM Forum October 14 - 16, 2014
15:16:37 <doron> #info oVirt workshop to be co-located with KVM Forum October 14 - 16, 2014
15:16:44 <bkp> We may be setting up a workshop/event in China sometime in late summer, based on feedback from China users group.
15:16:48 <bkp> OSCON is next up on July 20-24, 2014
15:16:50 <danken> mskrivanek: (at least in open source, where I'm bound to get caught)
15:16:57 <bkp> Will be adding event information, as well as CfP deadlines, to oVirt's Google calendar
15:17:12 <doron> #info We may be setting up a workshop/event in China sometime in late summer, based on feedback from China users group. OSCON is next up on July 20-24, 2014
15:17:17 <bkp> That's it for events...
15:17:23 <doron> bkp: thanks!
15:17:29 <doron> #topic other topics
15:17:48 <bkp> Got a few things...
15:17:48 <doron> Does anyone want to raise an issue or discuss something?
15:17:52 <bkp> oVirt has a new Google Plus community page. Join the community today and share your thoughts/links/insights https://plus.google.com/u/0/communities/109346090491400112913 (a better URL will be created in ~30 days). Short- and long-form content will be very welcome!
15:17:52 <doron> shoot
15:18:08 <bkp> We are in the process of mirroring the ovirt.org web site on http://ovirt-china.org/ so Chinese nationals can get access to our content. misc is pulling this together now.
15:18:24 <bkp> misc just notified us that the security certificate for https://www.ovirt.org is now valid. Closes tickets #28 and #42, though there's a mixed-content issue that will need to be resolved for the https iteration. A solution is known, will be implemented soon.
15:18:24 <doron> #info Join oVirt Google Plus community page: https://plus.google.com/u/0/communities/109346090491400112913
15:18:51 <doron> #info we started mirroring ovirt to  http://ovirt-china.org/ so Chinese nationals can get access to our content.
15:18:55 <bkp> As mentioned earlier in this meeting, I am pulling together stats of unique downloads of oVirt software from the main site. Once smoothed out, we will move forward with implementing on our mirror sites.
15:19:22 <bkp> Finally, speaking of mirror sites, my efforts to engage an Australian mirror site has not gone well. They have not responded to my initial requests. Trying again.
15:19:38 <doron> #info bkp pulling together stats of unique downloads of oVirt software from the main site. Once smoothed out, we will move forward with implementing on our mirror sites.
15:20:06 <doron> #info bkp looking for alternative AUS mirror.
15:20:20 <bkp> That's it from me
15:20:29 <doron> bkp: worth pinging the AUS folks to get their support
15:20:37 <bkp> doron Noted
15:20:44 <doron> bkp: thanks.
15:20:48 <doron> anything else?
15:20:53 <misc> bkp: I would like to express a reserve to "soon" and "now" in the summary :p
15:21:26 <doron> misc: noted.
15:21:33 <doron> anything else?
15:21:59 <doron> Going once?
15:22:44 <doron> Going twice...
15:23:16 <doron> Thanks all for joining!
15:23:19 <doron> #endmeeting