14:03:04 #startmeeting oVirt Weekly Meeting 14:03:04 Meeting started Wed Jun 26 14:03:04 2013 UTC. The chair is mburns. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:03:04 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 14:03:12 #chair oschreib 14:03:12 Current chairs: mburns oschreib 14:03:17 #topic agenda and roll call 14:03:24 #info 3.2 Status Update 14:03:29 #undo 14:03:29 Removing item from minutes: 14:03:38 #info 3.2 Update Stream 14:03:43 #info 3.3 Status Update 14:03:43 * ofri here 14:03:47 * ecohen here 14:03:48 * lvernia here 14:03:53 #info Infra report 14:03:59 #info Conferences and Workshops 14:04:04 #info Other Topics 14:04:14 * danken here 14:05:11 * mgoldboi here 14:05:24 #chair mgoldboi 14:05:24 Current chairs: mburns mgoldboi oschreib 14:06:04 * dustins_ntap here 14:06:21 #topic 3.2 Update Stream 14:06:51 #info mburns didn't finish vdsm -17 push, will finish now 14:07:06 mburns: thanks 14:07:07 #action mburns still needs to follow up on node build 14:07:45 mgoldboi: we said last week there was some concern around 3.1->3.2 upgrade 14:07:51 is that resolved? 14:07:58 i think alourie was working on it 14:08:13 mburns: in progress - being worked out with the user by KB 14:09:23 #info upgrade 3.1->3.2 documentation being worked out 14:09:25 #info no code fix 14:09:39 anything else come up for 3.2? 14:10:21 danken: you requested python-ethtool for 3.2 repos 14:10:24 is that needed? 14:10:36 or can we live with what's in fedora for 3.2? 14:10:37 mburns: for 3.3 14:10:44 sure 14:10:48 ok 14:10:59 Hi 14:11:01 only 3.3 would need newer ethtool and libvirt 14:11:06 danken: ok 14:11:17 anything else for 3.2 updates? 14:12:36 * ykaplan here 14:14:10 #topic 3.3 Status Update 14:14:21 #link http://www.ovirt.org/OVirt_3.3_release-management 14:15:11 can i get an overall status from each group? 14:15:27 and whether each group is on track for Mid-July freeze? 14:16:03 (/me curses while the page loads. soooo slowly) 14:16:13 just to add to danken, 3.3 will need 2 new packages for virts' console features novnc and html5_spice. And a new websocket proxy rpm as part of our build 14:16:31 danken: yep, that's a topic for the infra section 14:16:37 mskrivanek: are those in core fedora? 14:17:10 #info 3.2 quick async update -- vdsm -17 pushed to stable... 14:17:10 mburns: novnc is in F18(i believe), spice_html5 only in F20 14:17:48 mburns: just like you love it ;-) 14:18:28 ok, can someone take ownership from an oVirt point of view of spice_html5? 14:18:43 and produce builds for EL6, F18, F19? 14:19:07 we can host those since they're not in fedora already 14:19:36 danken: for the libvirt issue, i think i'd rather document that we need virt-preview rpms 14:19:48 rather than host the libvirt rpms on ovirt.org 14:20:03 3.3 virt: instance types will be in partially - new VM dialog. Should it remain red? Cloud-init not sure, the rest of features should make it by the end of month 14:20:06 mburns: doesn't createrepo has a feature of linking to an external repo? 14:20:24 danken: not sure 14:20:45 danken: maybe we can update the ovirt-release package to include virt-preview? 14:20:46 mskrivanek: I'm scrambling to get the vdsm side of cloud-init in. 14:21:09 #info need owner for html5_spice package 14:21:10 ah, the yum.repo. good idea. 14:21:12 mburns: for spice_html5 ok. I nominate Vinzenz Feenstra for producing those. 14:21:15 mburns: ^^ 14:21:38 #info need to get F18, F19, EL6 builds for hosting on ovirt.org 14:22:07 #info Vinzenz Feenstra nominated for ownership 14:22:58 #info vdsm requires libvirt from virt-preview for 3.3 14:23:20 #action mburns to update ovirt-release rpm to include virt-preview repo 14:23:20 mburns: isnt that an #action due to evilissimo? 14:23:53 danken: yes, if i had known that evilissimo was Vinzenz... 14:24:02 sorry:) 14:24:24 #action evilissimo to produce EL6 F18 F19 rpms for html5_spice and deliver to mburns for hosting on ovirt.org 14:24:50 danken: what about libvirt in EL6 -- i'm guessing that doesn't have the feature set you need? 14:26:20 mburns: oh it does. it was backported 14:26:27 danken: excellent 14:26:37 so it was just f18 that is missing the feature set 14:26:49 #info EL6 libvirt already has the feature enabled 14:27:14 #info ovirt-node will enable virt-preview repo for fedora based builds going forward (patch submitted this morning) 14:27:57 (when base Fedora has everything we need we can revert that) 14:28:07 #info virt features should be done by end of month 14:28:09 danken: ack 14:28:24 on the storage side: 14:28:39 Read on disks - looks like it will make it 14:29:03 Manage storage connections: risky, but should make it (everything except being able to edit iSCSI connection from GUI) 14:29:21 Backup API: Doesn't look like it will make it 14:29:41 Allow reelect SPM: looks like it will make it 14:30:07 The features which are green are already in. 14:30:46 #info storage features: one optional feature is unlikely, one Must is risky, but should make it, all others are looking good 14:31:26 #info node features -- all green and merged 14:31:37 UX: Frontend Refactor + GWT(P) Upgrade are risky (currently set for end of July), other than that - green (branding is in) 14:31:37 on network, we've got the bult of multigateway code in 14:31:53 go ahead, ecohen 14:32:07 updates from SLA, Integration, Infra? 14:32:15 danken, sorry - we are probably going according to the order in the wiki - I apologize. 14:32:20 danken: i can read both and summarize 14:32:23 so you can both go 14:32:37 I'm done :) 14:32:46 mburns: integration - updating hosted-engine to orange - on track for mid july 14:33:27 on the gluster features, 14:33:38 Note: For the guest agent we've prepared Ubuntu packaging 14:33:40 #info UX: frontend refactor is risky, target for end of july 14:33:48 but that still needs review 14:34:02 mgoldboi: that would only be bootstrapping, no? 14:34:05 #info integration: self-hosted engine is on track 14:34:27 abaron: that's right - according to the feature page 14:34:34 mgoldboi: got it 14:34:52 ecohen: end of july for Frontend? 14:34:57 freeze is mid-july 14:35:09 #info guest-agent is preparing Ubuntu packaging 14:35:14 evilissimo: still it should make it and let's declare it's on track... 14:35:19 mburns, I know - and we will try to aim that, but I cannot guarantee it. 14:35:31 ecohen: ok, thanks 14:35:49 mburns, can you please put a similar #info item on the GWT(P) Upgrade? 14:35:53 mskrivanek: well that's what I hope to say by that. The feature per se is complete 14:36:19 #info UX -- GWT(P) upgrade also at risk (target end of July) 14:36:27 mburns, thanks. 14:36:41 sahina: gluster? 14:36:46 mskrivanek: I might have missed it - have you mentioned ram snapshots? 14:36:46 gluster hooks management in. REST Api for gluster hooks management needs to be done, targeting mid-jul 14:37:07 gluster swift services management - vdsm patch yet to be merged 14:37:20 rest api for this not yet in either. 14:37:24 mskrivanek: I worry about side effects with faulty nfs there. 14:38:08 danken: won't you have bad sideeffects also with disks and a faulty NFS? 14:38:16 #info gluster -- hooks mgmt in, rest api for hooks not done but on target, swift service mgmt posted, api for swift is not done 14:38:18 danken: ram snapshots are generally ready. I'm also worried about many flows in fact, but I think it's good enough as a start. for 3.3 14:39:04 doron: any updates on SLA? 14:39:09 on SLA: 14:39:10 mburns, Let's whip everyone into shape to ensure that everyone is here next week for 3.3 14:39:16 mgoldboi: infra? 14:39:29 dneary: we have pretty good representation today 14:39:49 oVirt scheduler [must] and Scheduling API [must] - it's going to be tight but it looks 14:39:50 mskrivanek: but we still need to merge the vdsm patch.... 14:40:00 emesika: don't see yair here - any updates on infra features? 14:40:00 mburns, Ah, sorry - had the impression that we couldn't do an "in/out" meeting 14:40:29 dneary: this is a status update, not an in/out meeting 14:40:36 mburns, OK 14:40:49 Don't we need to do one of those? I thought that was today 14:40:49 ofri: is there any url for information on scheduler? 14:40:50 so far everything looks like it's on track, except possibly some UX features 14:40:56 Ah, great 14:41:15 #info SLA -- scheduler is tight, but ok 14:41:23 iranzo: like feature page? 14:41:31 * mgoldboi have to go - will catch up later on 14:41:34 mburns: F18 EL6 and probably soon also F19 packages of spice-html5 already exist 14:41:41 sahina: would you remind me which gluster patch is blocking for 3.3? 14:41:42 mskrivanek: ^^ 14:41:43 Hey all, I represent the infra team 14:42:12 ybronhei: hi, any updates on status? 14:42:12 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-3792/spice-html5-0.1.2-2.fc18?_csrf_token=b63ad0b0ce0bbfc5133e389bef6899aa015d7e38 14:42:17 more from SLA:.... 14:42:21 Network Qos [must] - we are still waiting for the pm decision on this one. 14:42:25 it was changed dramatically in the past week. 14:42:29 Watchdog engine support [must] - on time 14:42:32 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2013-0644/spice-html5-0.1.2-2.el6?_csrf_token=b63ad0b0ce0bbfc5133e389bef6899aa015d7e38 14:42:45 mburns: not something specific 14:43:11 ybronhei: everything is on track for 17-July feature freeze? 14:43:13 mburns: most of our 3.3 features are about to be done 14:43:15 evilissimo: great! 14:43:26 mburns: it looks like it. 14:43:33 #info SLA -- QoS is questionable for design, all others in 14:43:40 #info infra status -- everything on track 14:43:47 evilissimo: excellent 14:44:11 evilissimo: are they going into Fedora directly? 14:44:15 and EPEL? 14:44:38 network: multigw is in (with one known new bug), netreloaded is partial - but not a must anyway. neutron integration would be on time, but mkolesni can tell more. 14:44:38 #info Summary: Everything looking on track 14:44:46 #undo 14:44:46 Removing item from minutes: 14:44:57 mburns: I just checked on my fedora 18 and I can see them via yum 14:45:05 evilissimo: excellent 14:45:08 * mskrivanek has to run, but hopes danken will accept the crappy RAM snapshot vdsm patch:-) 14:45:16 #info html5_spice in Fedora already 14:45:30 mskrivanek: couldn't you get someone from storage to help you with nfs domains? 14:45:36 danken: the nfs issue was already there, that was our understanding from eduardo...but let's talk tomorrow about it perhaps 14:45:44 danken: neutron? 14:45:50 is that the new name for Quantum? 14:46:01 mburns: yep. trying to get used to it 14:46:07 * danken loves trademark wars 14:46:30 mskrivanek: now we're making worse with this 512 zeros padding 14:46:31 * evilissimo too see Metro :p 14:46:38 danken: so networking -- everything is on track? 14:46:55 yes, thouh not all patches are in 14:47:08 danken: right, i'm tracking high-level 14:47:20 don't need it all committed, but on track for dev freeze 14:47:31 #info network -- all on track for freeze 14:47:42 #info Summary: almost everything is on track 14:47:46 hi ahadas_, I've just mentioned your 0-padding on nfs :-( 14:48:24 #info At Risk: UX features -- Refactor and GWT(P) upgrade 14:49:27 #info tight, but ok for now: SLA -- scheduler, Storage -- manage storage connections 14:49:36 #info All others are on track 14:49:42 ok, anything else around 3.3? 14:49:59 or things mentioned that i didn't get into #info's? 14:50:48 ok, moving on 14:50:56 #topic Infra update 14:51:04 ewoud: anything new here? 14:51:10 #chair ewoud 14:51:10 Current chairs: ewoud mburns mgoldboi oschreib 14:51:15 mburns: not deeply related, but do you know if MLNX drivers are going to be part of ovirt-node? 14:51:24 mburns: work is still ongoing with the slaves @ rackspace 14:51:38 eedri: you wanted to discuss F17/F18/F19 jenkins slaves, right? 14:51:39 mburns: we're going to update the f17 slave to f19 14:51:58 danken: what's the driver name? 14:52:28 * danken does not recall :-( some folks asked me about it today 14:52:42 mburns: and quaid sent a mail that he thinks we need a project coordinator for the infra team because he's lacking time to do it 14:52:49 danken: hi, yes I saw - you're right, but I thought we concluded that those kind of things should be handled separately as they appear in different places in the code as well 14:53:00 http://lists.ovirt.org/pipermail/infra/2013-June/003424.html 14:53:20 question is should we keep supporting/releasing f17 rpms 14:53:42 danken: ok, let me do some research after the meeting 14:53:54 #info work ongoing with slaves @ rackspace 14:54:05 #info will be updating f17 slave to f19 14:54:24 #info quaid looking for someone to step as infra project coordinator 14:54:28 danken: even though in the padding case it's a little different as I'm not using pickle 14:54:38 eedri: imo, we can drop f17 14:54:40 ahadas_: the padding is completely new, thanks to abaron and kwolf not agreeing on a sane solution. 14:54:48 we required 18 for 3.2, iirc 14:54:51 mburns, ok. 14:55:01 and we'll need to support f19 for 3.3 14:55:12 danken: yeah.. 14:56:11 eedri: so i'd go ahead and drop f17 and move it to f19 14:56:25 mburns, sounds good. 14:56:46 mburns, we can already add another f17 later if needed 14:56:51 s/already/always 14:56:53 eedri: and, perhaps when we get the new rackspace stuff up, we can add additional f18 and 19 slaves 14:57:04 mburns, thats the plan 14:57:04 eedri: right 14:57:34 #agreed drop f17 slave in favor of f19 slave, add new slaves for f18/f19 soon, can add f17 if needed later 14:57:44 eedri: the only case for f17 i can think of is guest-agent 14:57:56 which should be buildable in mock on f18 14:57:57 but I can image we can use mock for that 14:58:04 exactly 14:58:10 or just build in koji 14:58:21 or somewhere outside jenkins, if needed 14:58:31 ok, anything else for infra? 14:58:39 not at the moment I think 14:58:45 ok, thanks 14:58:51 #topic Conferences and Workshops 14:59:00 dneary: do you know anything for this topic? 14:59:32 mburns, I do 14:59:36 * mburns doesn't see theron 14:59:41 dneary: excellent! 15:00:01 mburns, Theron has started planning on the next oVirt workshop. I'm not sure if we're ready to announce a venue yet 15:00:20 We've also started planning for an oVirt developer meeting in Edinburgh as part of the KVM Forum 15:00:54 I would like to get as many oVirt developers there as possible to have a "planning the future" set of meetings for Node, Engine and VDSM, as well as KVM of course 15:00:56 #info planning underway for next Workshop (no location announced yet) 15:01:25 #info planning underway for oVirt developer meeting in Edinburgh as part of KVM Forum (late October) 15:01:43 #info would like to get as many devs as possible there for planning the future 15:01:52 Aside from that, Theron recently presented oVirt and Gluster integration at the Red Hat Summit, and participated in a workshop on that also 15:02:39 #info Theron presented oVirt and Gluster integration at Red Hat Summit recently 15:02:47 #info including a live demo in the oVirt booth 15:03:04 #info mburns has a talk submitted for CloudOpen NA 15:04:34 #info submission deadline for LinuxCon/CloudOpen EU (in Edinburgh) is 21-July 15:04:55 #info CFP also open for KVM Forum 15:05:28 #info no closing date listed, so get submissions in ASAP 15:05:45 dneary: anything else? 15:06:29 #topic Other Topics 15:06:35 anything else from anyone else? 15:07:05 going once... 15:08:48 twice.. 15:09:27 gone. 15:09:29 Thanks all 15:09:32 #endmeeting