14:03:38 <mburns> #startmeeting oVirt Weekly Meeting 14:03:38 <ovirtbot> Meeting started Wed Jun 19 14:03:38 2013 UTC. The chair is mburns. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:03:38 <ovirtbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 14:03:45 <mburns> #chair oschreib mgoldboi1 ewoud 14:03:45 <ovirtbot> Current chairs: ewoud mburns mgoldboi1 oschreib 14:03:51 <mburns> #topic Agenda and Roll Call 14:03:57 * mburns apologizes for being late... 14:04:02 * mgoldboi1 here 14:04:19 <mburns> #chair mgoldboi 14:04:19 <ovirtbot> Current chairs: ewoud mburns mgoldboi mgoldboi1 oschreib 14:04:24 <mburns> #unchair mgoldboi1 14:04:24 <ovirtbot> Current chairs: ewoud mburns mgoldboi oschreib 14:04:35 * dustins_ntap here 14:04:44 <mburns> #info 3.2 updates 14:04:48 <mburns> #info 3.3 status review 14:04:52 * lvernia here 14:05:05 <mburns> #info infra report 14:05:10 <mburns> #info conferences and workshopts 14:05:12 <mburns> #undo 14:05:12 <ovirtbot> Removing item from minutes: <MeetBot.items.Info object at 0x9aa916c> 14:05:14 <mburns> #info conferences and workshops 14:05:23 <mburns> #info Other Topics 14:05:41 * doron_ here 14:05:47 * doron here 14:06:18 <mburns> #topic 3.2 updates 14:06:29 <mburns> #info there is an updated vdsm in updates-testing: 4.10.3-17 14:06:42 <mburns> is there anything blocking pushing this to stable? 14:07:14 <mburns> fsimonce: danken: ^^ 14:07:39 <mburns> #info ovirt-node update will be built this week and posted ASAP 14:07:54 <danken> mburns: I think that it simply lacks some karma in bodhi. 14:07:56 <danken> dougsland: ?^^^ 14:09:05 <dougsland> mburns, you meant on ovirt-stable repo right ? 14:09:09 <mburns> dougsland: yes 14:09:45 <dougsland> mburns, from my side nothing, danken ? On Fedora there is no votes yet (to move to stable) 14:10:07 <mburns> dougsland: no known issues? so we can probably push to stable this week 14:10:23 <dougsland> mburns, I don't see any report. 14:10:38 <mburns> #action mburns to push vdsm from updates-testing to stable 14:11:03 <mburns> #action mburns to follow-up on getting ovirt-node respin built with vdsm. 14:11:20 <mburns> any other issues with 3.2 that we might need an update for? 14:11:39 <mgoldboi> mburns: yes 14:11:57 <mgoldboi> mburns: there are some complains on 3.1->3.2 upgrade on fedora not supported 14:12:20 <mgoldboi> mburns: alourie is trying to assist on solving it 14:12:30 <mburns> mgoldboi: ok 14:12:36 <mburns> no fix pending yet? 14:12:49 <mgoldboi> mburns: but since the amount of interest from the community is low - it'll probably be a KB 14:12:49 <alourie> mburns: no real fix, but documentation of the process 14:12:55 <alourie> yes 14:13:29 <mburns> ok 14:13:46 <mburns> #info some complaints about lack of upgrade from 3.1->3.2 on fedora 14:13:54 <mburns> #info alourie is working on documenting the process 14:14:00 <mburns> #info likely no code fix 14:14:20 <mburns> ok, anything else on 3.2? 14:15:22 <mburns> ok, on to 3.3 14:15:29 <mburns> #topic 3.3 status 14:16:31 <mburns> #info features without target dates and release priority that aren't complete are getting dropped from tracking 14:17:15 <mburns> #info Virt features 14:17:18 <mgoldboi> mburns: feature completeness wouldn't allow us to get to feature freeze 14:17:37 <mgoldboi> mburns: suggestion - postpone feature freeze in 2 weeks 14:17:47 <mburns> #undo 14:17:47 <ovirtbot> Removing item from minutes: <MeetBot.items.Info object at 0x9acda2c> 14:18:21 <mburns> mgoldboi: feature freeze is currently set for Jul 1 14:18:22 <mgoldboi> mburns: sorry for jumping ... :) 14:18:31 <mburns> mgoldboi: so we're not going to hit that? 14:18:53 <mgoldboi> mburns: don't think so - but you're right let's review team by team first 14:19:03 <mburns> #link http://www.ovirt.org/OVirt_3.3_release-management 14:19:05 <mburns> ok 14:19:09 <mburns> starting with 14:19:12 <mburns> #info Virt Team 14:19:23 <mburns> #info Feature RAM Snapshots 14:19:34 <mburns> #info status: orange 14:19:34 <mgoldboi> ofrenkel: any updates here? 14:19:50 <mburns> #info target date: 17-Jun 14:20:11 <mburns> #info priority: unset 14:22:12 <yzaslavs> hi, i represent infra features 14:22:31 <mburns> no one here from virt team? 14:22:37 <mgoldboi> mburns: let's skip virt - no rep. 14:22:45 <mburns> ok, then on to infra 14:22:52 <doron> ofrenkel: ping? 14:22:53 <mburns> #info Infra Features 14:23:03 <mgoldboi> mburns: please add it to the meeting minutes 14:23:11 <mburns> #undo 14:23:11 <ovirtbot> Removing item from minutes: <MeetBot.items.Info object at 0x9a5a56c> 14:23:20 <mburns> #info skipping virt since no rep available 14:23:22 <mburns> #info Infra Features 14:23:33 <mburns> #info Feature: Device Custom Properties 14:23:38 <mburns> #info status: green 14:23:54 <mburns> #info Feature: Async task manager 14:24:05 <mburns> #info status: Orange 14:24:26 <mburns> yzaslavs: any updates on that feature? ^^ 14:24:33 <mburns> #info priority: should 14:24:39 <mburns> #info target date: unset 14:25:21 <mgoldboi> yzaslavs: any updates on those features? 14:26:21 <mburns> yzaslavs: or updates on External Tasks or supervdsm service ? 14:26:27 <yzaslavs> mburns, mgoldboi: device custom properties is merged. it used for vnic. 14:26:59 <yzaslavs> mburns, mgoldboi: async task mgr - in progress, code is written, being reviewed and basic sanity is done. 14:27:17 <yzaslavs> mburn, mgoldboi: external tasks - code is being written and reviewed, still in progress. 14:27:24 <mgoldboi> yzaslavs: ETA is updated in the table? 14:27:43 <mburns> external tasks says 6-Jun for target... 14:27:53 <yzaslavs> mgoldboi: no, i will talk with feature owners and update 14:28:14 <yzaslavs> mburns: yes, we had some unexpected issues, i will talk with feature owner (emesika) to change this 14:28:30 <mburns> ok, how about the supervdsm service? 14:28:35 <mburns> yzaslavs: ^ 14:29:45 <yzaslavs> mburns: will give u answer in 14:29:55 <yzaslavs> mburns: oops, sorry, the feature is in, merged. 14:30:04 <mburns> supervdsm is in? 14:30:08 <yzaslavs> mburns: yes. 14:30:08 <mburns> terrific 14:30:24 <mgoldboi> yzaslavs: please make sure table is updated for infra with current status 14:30:36 <yzaslavs> mgoldboi: no prob. emailing feature owners ASAP 14:30:41 <mburns> yzaslavs: thanks 14:31:17 <mburns> #info Task manager under final review, no issues 14:31:29 <mburns> #info Feature: External Tasks 14:31:38 <mburns> #info Status Orange -- still in development 14:31:43 <mburns> #info target date still pending 14:31:57 <mburns> #action yzaslavs to followup with new target date 14:32:07 <mburns> ok, on to Networking 14:32:26 <mburns> #info Networking Features 14:32:45 <mburns> #info Normalized ovirtmgmt Initialization 14:32:51 <mburns> #info Complete 14:33:02 <mburns> #info Migration Network 14:33:05 <mburns> #info Complete 14:33:17 <mburns> #info Quantum Integration 14:33:30 <apuimedo> mburns: Multiple Gateways is just solving some bugs and undergoing review 14:33:52 <apuimedo> mburns: some funny race conditions with dhcp... 14:33:54 <mburns> #info status: Orange 14:34:09 <mburns> apuimedo: what about quantum integration? 14:34:30 <apuimedo> mburns: it should be ready by tomorrow end of the day 14:34:37 <apuimedo> but I didn't ask for update today 14:34:52 <mburns> #info Quantum Integration should get merged in coming days 14:35:15 <mburns> #info Multiple Gateways 14:35:35 <mburns> #info in final review, status Orange 14:35:49 <mburns> apuimedo: Network Reloaded? 14:36:09 <apuimedo> mburns: It got three more patches in 14:36:17 <mburns> #info Network Reloaded 14:36:28 <mburns> #info status: progress, not a blocker for release 14:36:32 <apuimedo> it is only missing some optional persistence work for cross-distro 14:36:40 <apuimedo> (unified persistence it is called) 14:36:42 <mburns> apuimedo: ack 14:36:49 <mburns> ok, anything else for networking? 14:37:00 <apuimedo> mburns: work will be resumed on unified persistence next week 14:37:05 <apuimedo> mburns: no, nothing else 14:37:10 <apuimedo> mburns: thanks 14:37:12 <mburns> ok, then on to storage 14:37:16 <mburns> apuimedo: thanks for the update 14:37:20 <mburns> #topic Storage features 14:37:24 <apuimedo> mburns: you're welcome 14:38:04 <mburns> anyone here from the storage team? 14:38:56 <mgoldboi> amureini: ping^^ 14:39:18 <mburns> most storage features are marked optional, so we can probably skip over them 14:39:36 <mburns> manage storage connections is a must and has a "Red" status 14:39:47 <mburns> with a target date of 30-Jun, so i'd like an update 14:40:01 <mburns> but we can come back to it 14:40:04 <amureini> mburns, yes, hi. manager storage connections is the only things that we're concern about. 14:40:18 <mburns> amureini: ok, still on track for 30-Jun? 14:40:18 <amureini> mburns, sincerely doubt it will make jun-30 14:40:26 <amureini> mburns, see abovr 14:40:29 <amureini> *above 14:40:34 <mburns> amureini: any feel for when it will be done? 14:42:14 <amureini> mburns, I'd ballpark it for mid july 14:42:44 <mburns> #info Storage features 14:42:57 <mburns> #info manage storage connections -- RED, target mid-july 14:43:06 <mburns> #info must-have feature 14:43:11 <mburns> amureini: ok, thanks 14:43:27 <mburns> doron_: how are SLA features going? 14:43:44 <doron_> mburns: similar to what we had so far- 14:43:50 <doron_> watchdog is mostly merged. 14:44:07 <doron_> missing just the rest patch which is being reviewed. 14:44:18 <mburns> #info SLA features 14:44:26 <doron_> we have scheduler and scheduling API being developed in parallel 14:44:32 <mburns> #info Watchdog -- mostly merged, final patch in review 14:45:02 <mburns> doron_: any eta on them? 14:45:03 <doron_> but still not there- both scheduling tasks need additional 2 weeks. 14:45:19 <doron_> mburns: since very sensitive 14:45:28 <doron_> we need to properly test it as well. 14:45:32 <doron_> prior to merging 14:45:42 <mburns> doron_: as in, ready in 2 weeks? or 2 weeks beyond their current target? 14:45:58 <mburns> (target is currently 1-July 14:46:00 <doron_> mburns: mid july 14:46:05 <mburns> doron_: ok 14:46:14 <mburns> doron_: how about QoS? 14:46:35 <doron_> mburns: same eta- vdsm patches ion. work on engine is in progress. 14:46:41 <mburns> #info Scheduler and schedule API -- still in development, target mid-july 14:46:58 <mburns> #info QoS target mid-july 14:47:11 <mburns> doron_: ok, how comfortable are you in those dates? 14:47:22 <mburns> doron_: are they likely to slip beyond? 14:47:44 <doron_> mburns: not entirely, but we may have a few bz's to resolve. 14:48:33 <mburns> doron_: are they likely to be merged and just need some bug fixes that can go into a final RC? 14:48:46 <doron_> mburns: that is correct. 14:48:58 <mburns> doron_: ok 14:49:12 <mburns> #info SLA features should at least be feature complete by mid july 14:49:38 <mburns> ok, moving on 14:49:51 <mburns> #info Gluster Swift -- dropped 14:50:01 <mburns> #info Gluster Hooks -- status orange 14:50:07 <mburns> any updates on this? ^^ 14:50:55 <mburns> mgoldboi: who is the contact for this? 14:52:02 <mgoldboi> mburns: Sahina 14:52:15 <mgoldboi> mburns: don't see her in... 14:52:21 <mburns> ok 14:52:30 <mburns> #info no gluster contact online 14:52:38 <mburns> #info Node Features 14:52:47 <mburns> #info Universal Node: Status: Complete 14:52:53 <mgoldboi> mburns: who is updating here? :) 14:53:32 <mburns> #info Node VDSM plugin: mostly complete, can be finalized quickly once we need beta/test images 14:53:37 <mburns> mgoldboi: updating what? 14:53:50 <mburns> bah... 14:53:54 <mburns> oftc-- 14:54:10 <mburns> mgoldboi: updating what? 14:54:24 <mgoldboi> mburns: on node.. bad joke.. 14:54:30 <mburns> mgoldboi: ah, ok 14:54:48 <mburns> #info Integration features 14:55:20 <mburns> #info Feature Self Hosted Engine -- Status: Red 14:55:28 <mburns> mgoldboi: is this you? or oschreib_ ? 14:55:38 * oschreib_ here 14:55:38 <mgoldboi> mburns: me...me 14:56:14 <mburns> mgoldboi: ok, self hosted engine and otopi infra migration 14:56:30 <mburns> both list 20-Jun as a target 14:56:32 <mgoldboi> mburns: hosted engine - upgrade almost there 14:56:34 <mburns> is that still accurate? 14:56:49 <mgoldboi> mburns: target date was updated to Jun 29th 14:57:22 <mburns> ok, /me refreshes 14:57:37 <mburns> mgoldboi: self-hosted looks like it's now 15-Jul? 14:57:38 <mgoldboi> mburns:sorry- hosted engine - mid june 14:57:55 <mgoldboi> mburns: otopi migration - Jun 29th 14:57:57 <doron_mtg> mgoldboi: you mean mid july 14:58:06 <mgoldboi> mburns: table is updated , and yes 14:58:21 <mgoldboi> mid july 14:58:33 <mburns> mgoldboi: are those comfortable dates? 14:58:39 <mgoldboi> mburns: yes 14:58:54 <mburns> excellent, i thought self-hosted engine was going to get deferred 14:59:10 <mgoldboi> mburns: we are focusing on 2 different parts 14:59:31 <mgoldboi> mburns: the bootstrap should be ready - HA not sure 14:59:37 <mburns> mgoldboi: ok 14:59:59 <mburns> #info self-hosted should be done mid-july 15:00:10 <mburns> #info otopi migration should be end of June 15:00:18 <mburns> ok, on to UX features 15:00:34 <mburns> #info User portal IE8 performance -- Complete 15:00:42 <doron_mtg> mgoldboi: mburns ha plan on hosted engine is mid july if all goes well... 15:00:48 <mburns> doron_mtg: ok 15:01:09 <mburns> any updates on branding support and frontend refactor? 15:02:43 <mburns> mgoldboi: ^^ 15:03:17 <mgoldboi> vszocs: any updates on UX? 15:04:50 <mgoldboi> mburns: let's continue... 15:05:05 <mburns> #info no UX person available 15:05:45 <mburns> so looking at this, we have a number of Should and Must features not finishing until mid July 15:06:20 <mburns> #idea delay feature freeze until 17-July and GA until 14-Aug 15:06:35 <mburns> #idea beta shipped 17-July or ASAP after 15:06:46 <mburns> RC around 1-Aug 15:06:55 <mgoldboi> mburns: +1 15:06:56 <mburns> #idea RC around 1-Aug 15:07:14 <mburns> any objections? 15:07:52 <mburns> #agreed on new dates 15:08:03 <mburns> mgoldboi: can you update the dates on the wiki? 15:08:30 <mgoldboi> mburns: sure 15:08:58 <vszocs> mgoldboi: sorry for late response, I have some updates if it's still relevant 15:09:08 <mburns> vszocs: sure 15:09:25 <vszocs> mgoldboi, mburns: UX update: 15:09:50 <vszocs> branding support - merged and working, default ovirt branding externalized as separate package 15:10:01 <vszocs> frontend refactor - still in progress 15:10:05 <mburns> vszocs: excellent 15:10:14 <vszocs> upgrade GWT version - still in progress 15:10:17 <mburns> vszocs: any eta on the frontend refactor? 15:10:42 <mburns> upgrade gwt version is currently not listed as a feature 15:10:50 <mburns> vszocs: can you add it to the wiki? 15:11:00 <mburns> #info branding support is complete 15:11:27 <mburns> #info frontend refactor and upgrade GWT version are in progress 15:11:37 <vszocs> mburns: not sure about ETA on frontend refactor, no upstream patch yet, not sure if we make it till 3.3 ff 15:12:03 <mburns> #info no eta on frontend refactor yet 15:12:42 <vszocs> mburns: sure, which wiki can I update regarding GWT version upgrade? 15:12:51 <mburns> http://www.ovirt.org/OVirt_3.3_release-management 15:12:54 <vszocs> ok 15:13:09 <mburns> ok, moving on 15:13:15 <mburns> #topic Infra update 15:13:20 <mburns> ewoud: any highlights this week? 15:14:21 * mgoldboi have to go - release page updated with dates - catch all later on 15:14:40 <mburns> mgoldboi: thanks 15:14:52 <mburns> #info see infra minutes for highlights 15:14:59 <mburns> #topic Conferences and Workshops 15:15:06 <mburns> #info Red Hat Summit was last week 15:15:45 <mburns> #info there was an oVirt booth there staffed primarily by theron and ecohen (and mburns for one day) 15:16:04 <mburns> #info lots of traffic, good questions, and a number of followups from theron afterwards 15:16:33 <mburns> #info other conferences coming up, but we'll go into details next week when there is more time 15:16:44 <mburns> #topic Other Topics 15:16:47 <mburns> anything else? 15:18:02 <mburns> going once... 15:18:38 <mburns> twice.. 15:19:03 <mburns> gone. 15:19:06 <mburns> Thanks all 15:19:08 <mburns> #endmeeting