14:00:28 <mburns> #startmeeting oVirt Weekly Meeting 14:00:28 <ovirtbot> Meeting started Wed Jun 5 14:00:28 2013 UTC. The chair is mburns. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:00:28 <ovirtbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 14:00:32 <mburns> #topic agenda and roll call 14:00:42 <mburns> oschreib_: wow -- i was all of 10 seconds late ;-) 14:00:55 <mburns> #chair oschreib_ ewoud 14:00:55 <ovirtbot> Current chairs: ewoud mburns oschreib_ 14:00:57 <oschreib_> mburns: :) 14:01:00 * ofri here 14:01:14 <dneary> hi all 14:01:18 <mburns> #info 3.2 Updates 14:01:21 <mburns> #info 3.3 status 14:01:32 <mburns> #info conferences and workshops 14:01:35 <mburns> #info infra update 14:01:40 <mburns> #info other topics 14:01:56 <oschreib_> mburns: just an small update: mgoldboi won't be online today 14:02:04 <mburns> oschreib_: ok 14:02:22 <mburns> oschreib_: side note -- can either you or mgoldboi handle the meeting next week? 14:02:30 * mburns is going to be at Red Hat Summit all day 14:02:39 <theron> Hi everyone :) 14:02:40 <mburns> (though talking about oVirt at the booth) 14:02:42 * lvernia here 14:02:56 <oschreib_> mburns: I have to check my schedule, but I don't think it's going to be a problem 14:03:06 <mburns> oschreib_: ok, thanks 14:03:27 <mburns> #topic 3.2 updates 14:03:40 <mburns> #info 3.2.2 is live (pushed early last week) 14:03:55 <mburns> #info vdsm update coming soon 14:04:07 <mburns> dougsland: fsimonce: update on vdsm build? 14:04:54 * dneary is also going to be at the Summit 14:04:59 <dougsland> mburns, yes. 14:05:20 <dneary> mburns, We should have some kind of process for announcing stable updates 14:05:27 <dneary> Is it too late to announce 3.2.2? 14:05:33 <dneary> (I mean, on the website) 14:05:33 * theron will be w/ mburns standing talking about oVirt 14:06:01 <mburns> dneary: we can certainly announce something 14:06:31 <mburns> dneary: i normally send something to announce@ 14:06:41 <mburns> but didn't this time (i didn't have the details on what was fixed 14:06:58 <mburns> dougsland: when can we expect the build of vdsm? this week? 14:07:08 <theron> if we can get that I can add it to the website yet this week mburns 14:08:02 <dougsland> mburns, I have built yesterday vdsm-4.10.3-17 on Fedora, need the votes to get pushed. 14:08:16 * oschreib_ hopes his connection will last until the end of this meeting. 14:08:53 <mburns> dougsland: ok, i need a scratch build to get vdsm-gluster and an el6 build 14:09:25 <dougsland> mburns, sure. 14:09:48 <mburns> #info vdsm build to be made available in updates testing later this week (hopefully today) 14:10:00 <mburns> #info to move to stable next week if no issues are found 14:10:57 <mburns> #info ovirt-node respin to pick up the new vdsm will happen shortly as well 14:11:31 <mburns> oschreib_: do you have details on what was fixed in the 3.2.2 update? 14:11:40 <mburns> can you get them to theron? 14:11:54 <oschreib_> I can try to find a list of bugs 14:12:00 <mburns> oschreib_: thanks 14:12:02 <theron> thanks oschreib_ 14:12:19 <mburns> #topic oVirt 3.3 updates 14:13:15 <mburns> #link http://www.ovirt.org/OVirt_3.3_release-management 14:13:26 <dneary> mburns, I contacted Deepak Shetty and Sharad Mishra from IBM to get info on when they expected features to land 14:13:27 <mburns> #info updated dates are posted to the Release Management page 14:13:36 <dneary> Looks like the backup/restore API wion't be for 3.3 14:13:50 <dneary> But Gluster storage domain should be good to go already 14:13:52 <mburns> #info backup/restore api likely to miss 3.3 14:14:02 <mburns> #info gluster storage domain should be good to go already 14:15:04 <mburns> #info many geatures still show "Red" status without anticipated completion date 14:15:07 <mburns> #undo 14:15:07 <ovirtbot> Removing item from minutes: <MeetBot.items.Info object at 0xa40316c> 14:15:09 <mburns> #info many features still show "Red" status without anticipated completion date 14:15:41 <mburns> #info these dates are being organized by mgoldboi 14:16:03 <mburns> #info dates should be available on the chart by next week's meeting 14:18:20 <mburns> #info not much else to discuss until we have the feature information next week 14:18:55 <mburns> #info features without Release Priority and/or target date *will* be dropped after next week's meeting 14:18:57 <apuimedo> for the networking stuff 14:19:10 <mburns> apuimedo: ok 14:19:16 <apuimedo> mutliple gateways already has two patches posted and is undergoing review 14:19:33 <apuimedo> tomorrow there will be a meeting in #vdsm at freenode to discuss the finer points of it 14:19:52 <apuimedo> and for the network reloaded feature we got merged 4 or five patches more 14:20:09 <apuimedo> and decided on the remaining design open questions 14:20:11 <mburns> #info network feature: multiple gateways: moving to Orange -- some patches posted, under review 14:20:23 <mburns> #info meeting in #vdsm on Freenode tomorrow to discuss/review 14:21:09 <mburns> #info Network Reloaded: design questions answered and more patches merged 14:21:53 <apuimedo> mburns: thanks 14:22:02 <mburns> apuimedo: security groups and labels are probably going to be deferred? 14:22:10 <mburns> apuimedo: any update on quantum integration? 14:22:18 <mburns> (those are the other network features that aren't green) 14:22:47 <apuimedo> mburns: I'll get back to you on those 14:22:53 <mburns> apuimedo: ok, thanks 14:23:02 <mburns> anyone have other features to discuss? 14:23:19 <mburns> otherwise, i'll defer other discussions until we have dates/priorities set for each next week 14:24:00 <ofri> SLA 14:24:16 <ofri> trusted compute pulls 14:24:46 <ofri> starting to see the end 14:25:03 <ofri> still some minor changes and reviews 14:25:11 <mburns> ofri: which feature is that? 14:25:24 * mburns sees schedule, schule api, QoS, watchdog features 14:25:32 <mburns> s/schule/schedule 14:25:54 <jurrien_> Hi, rhevm has the admin@internal account. Is it also possible to create for example jurrien@internal ? 14:26:02 <ofri> its an extarnal feature - coming from intel 14:26:16 <ofri> not on the table 14:26:25 <mburns> ofri: ok, is there a feature page or status page to track? 14:26:30 <mburns> can we add it to the table? 14:26:50 <oschreib_> jurrien_: no, there's no such option. 14:26:55 <ofri> ok - i'll check 14:27:04 <mburns> #info new feature from Intel -- trusted compute pulls -- making progress 14:27:32 <mburns> #action ofri to check on feature page and update release page with details on new intel feature (trusted compute) 14:27:47 <ofri> schedualing - progrss is stoped for next week and a half 14:27:58 <jurrien_> oschreib_: Is it possible to use a openldap server? instead of IPA? 14:28:13 <mburns> ofri: still on target for end of July? 14:28:21 <ofri> yes 14:28:36 <mburns> #info scheduling changes -- on target for end of July 14:28:43 <dneary> mburns, ofri: Perhaps it's worth stating that we don't need features to be done next week, but we need to be confident that they will be done & stable in a short period (X weeks) 14:29:07 <ofri> QoS - back to the drawing bord. featue is going under many changes 14:29:19 <mburns> dneary: yes, end of July -- that's our dev freeze 14:29:21 <ofri> we are still in design stage 14:29:38 <dneary> mburns, Can we minute that, please? 14:30:05 <mburns> ofri: dneary sorry -- meant beginning of july/end of June... 14:30:05 <dneary> mburns, end of July dev freeze means... release in ~first two weeks of August? 14:30:07 <oschreib_> jurrien_: I believe you can do that, but I guess that an email to users@ovirt.org will give you a clearer answer 14:30:24 <jurrien_> Ok thanks! oschreib_ 14:30:26 <dneary> OK - s/July/June, s/August/July 14:30:36 <mburns> dneary: ga currently targeted at Aug 1 14:30:45 <mburns> +- a couple days 14:30:56 <mburns> #info Development freeze: July 1 14:31:13 <mburns> #info all features need to be merged/relatively stable by Development freeze 14:31:20 <ofri> ok. we are still on schedual with the schedualer API. this break was known in advance 14:31:21 <mburns> #info Targeted GA: 1 Aug 14:31:35 <mburns> ofri: ok 14:32:02 <mburns> ofri: QoS -- is that also looking like end of June? 14:32:41 <ofri> still hard to say - but that is the plan 14:32:54 <ofri> last.... watchdog - on schedual 14:32:57 <mburns> #info QoS -- planned for end of june, but still in planning 14:33:06 <mburns> #info watchdog -- on schedule for End of June 14:33:40 <mburns> ok, any other feature areas to discuss today? 14:33:56 <mburns> Storage, integration, ux, infra, virt? 14:35:29 <mburns> #info node features should all be done well in advance of beta dates 14:35:44 <itamar> mburns, does that cover the 'no bridge' one? 14:35:59 <mburns> #info additional node feature (bridgeless networks) is questionable at the moment, but we're trying 14:36:35 <mburns> itamar: first wave of patches should land in gerrit this week 14:36:54 <mburns> but we need to essentially test everything with this change 14:37:23 <apuimedo> mburns: who is working on bridgeless networks? 14:37:37 <mburns> from the node side: fabiand_ 14:37:43 <apuimedo> aha 14:37:44 <apuimedo> ok ;-) 14:37:49 <mburns> apuimedo: we should have a feature page up soon 14:37:54 <apuimedo> good 14:38:19 <apuimedo> mburns: let me know if there is something with vdsm that would cause any trouble 14:38:47 <mburns> apuimedo: will do, but it will likely be a bit before we know that 14:38:54 <mburns> we have to get base node stuff to work first 14:39:15 <mburns> before we can test with vdsm 14:39:24 <apuimedo> ok 14:39:43 <mburns> ok, if nothing else for 3.3 today, then i'll move on 14:39:52 <mburns> #topic Conferences and Workshops 14:40:03 <mburns> #info oVirt will have a booth at Red Hat Summit 14:40:44 <mburns> #info multiple people will be staffing the booth at various times (theron dneary ecohen abaron itamar mburns) 14:40:50 <theron> if I haven't spoken with you re: RH summit, and you're planning on being there and would like to work the oVirt booth please let me know. 14:41:08 <dneary> mburns, I'll be right next door on the RDO stand 14:41:12 <mburns> #info if you will be there and would like to man the booth, then please get in contact with theron 14:41:20 <mburns> dneary: close enough ;-) 14:41:54 <mburns> dneary: theron: any other conference/workshop info? 14:41:56 <itamar> jurrien_, openldap was merged couple of weeks ago, you can try and test it with nightly. should be released with 3.3, but testing prior to release is encouraged. 14:42:00 <dneary> theron, Worth mentioning KVM Forum/CloudOpen? 14:42:25 <itamar> dneary - very much worth it 14:42:47 <theron> we just wrapped up linuxcon jp 14:43:10 <mburns> #info just wrapped up linuxcon JP 14:43:21 <theron> laszlo did a great presentation on oVirt. 14:43:29 <theron> well received 14:43:46 <mburns> #info great presentation from lazlo on oVirt 14:44:19 <theron> I presented on gluster and ovirt as well during the gluster track. 14:44:30 <theron> great conversations with NTT and .... 14:44:35 <mburns> #info theron talked about gluster and ovirt in the gluster track 14:45:02 <theron> IIJ (couldn't remember name) internet initiative japan 14:45:20 <mburns> #great conversations with NTT and IIJ 14:46:44 <theron> KVM forum info here: http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/kvm-forum 14:47:00 <theron> we're going to be holding an oVirt workshop along side. 14:47:11 <theron> more info next week, we're getting the room sorted now. 14:47:19 <mburns> #info there will be an oVirt workshop alongside KVM Forum (http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/kvm-forum) 14:47:28 <mburns> #info more details coming next week 14:47:54 <theron> we want to make sure as many papers are submitted for oVirt DURING the KVM forum as possible, so get yours in today! 14:48:21 <mburns> theron: submit to the kvm forum? 14:48:25 <theron> yes. 14:48:27 <mburns> not a separate event? 14:48:31 <theron> and yes 14:48:36 <mburns> ok 14:48:51 <mburns> #info submit talks ASAP for KVM Forum for your oVirt talks 14:48:54 <theron> while we'll have a seperate event, we want to increase exposure during the KVM forum as well. 14:49:26 <theron> we'll do our best to not inundate presenters, and do more deep dive in the oVirt workshop itself. 14:49:38 <mburns> ok 14:49:43 <theron> although I'm sure there will be GREAT content ready to go for the KVM forum as well. 14:50:29 * mburns hopes he can get budget to be there... 14:50:54 <theron> I'm assuming the CFP for the oVirt workshop next to KVM forum should look similar to shanghai dneary? 14:51:35 * theron notes if yes that should go live and be a talking point during RH summit. 14:51:44 <dneary> theron, I was thinking more of having a "proper" unconference, but ensuring that we have oVirt content proposed for CloudOpen and the KVM Forum 14:52:01 <dneary> theron, We mentioned having this as primarily a developer planning meeting 14:52:09 <dneary> s/mentioned/discussed 14:52:22 <dneary> Sorry, multi-tasking... 14:52:28 <theron> dneary, right. was unclear if that ruled out the CFP etc etc. 14:52:34 <mburns> so perhaps have talks submitted to CloudOpen and KVM Forum 14:52:56 <mburns> but just have a couple rooms set aside for ad-hoc oVirt developer discussions? 14:52:56 <dneary> theron, I think we want to make sure we get key people there 14:53:05 <dneary> So less CFP, more "pre-planning" 14:53:11 <theron> mburns, yes. either way we'll have talking points @ Summit for the event, and data will be online prior at ovirt.org 14:53:18 <theron> dneary, agreed. 14:53:50 <mburns> #info proposal -- submit talks to CloudOpen/KVMForum and get a room (or 2) set aside for more informal oVirt developer meetings 14:54:12 <mburns> #info details should be available on ovirt.org in the next week 14:54:28 <mburns> any other workshops/conference things to discuss? 14:55:17 <theron> linuxcon US is in the fall. 14:55:40 <mburns> yes, september in New Orleans 14:55:52 <theron> other than that, we'll need to discuss where the following workshop will be held. 14:55:54 * mburns likely to submit a talk (or 2) 14:56:34 <mburns> theron: the next corporate workshop (for lack of a better term)? 14:56:47 <theron> mburns, yes. we had discussed RTP 14:56:59 <dneary> The CFP for Nyuawlins is in a few weeks - late June (21st I think?) - for Edinburgh late July 14:57:49 <theron> Cisco Netapp and IBM were interested so there is possibility there. will be talking with folks from Cisco and Netapp @ summit. 14:58:21 <mburns> #info CFP for LinuxCon NA is June 17 14:58:44 <mburns> #info CFP for LinuxCon EU is July 21 14:59:09 <mburns> #info additional info for the next corporate hosted workshop will be forthcoming in the next few weeks 14:59:30 <mburns> #info some discussions about going to RTP (North Carolina) 14:59:45 * mburns votes for Hawaii... ;-) 14:59:50 <mskrivanek> mburns: CFP for LinuxCon EU date means CFP for KVM as well? 14:59:54 <dneary> Ooh! June 17 is close 15:00:05 <jurrien_> itamar: Thanks! I know enough now 15:00:27 <mburns> mskrivanek: looking now... 15:01:05 <theron> let's say we're planning the following workshop for RTP but open to ideas elsewhere. 15:01:21 <theron> please reach out if companies or organizations are interested in hosting. 15:01:47 <mburns> mskrivanek: no link on that page for cfp for kvm forum 15:01:54 <mburns> so i'll have to follow up 15:02:02 <theron> I'll follow up with the folks we talked to re: RTP and see who is really interested. 15:02:43 <mburns> #info current plan is to have next corporate hosted workshop in RTP, but let theron know if there are other companies/organizations that want to host regardless of location 15:04:08 <mburns> theron: dneary: do you know anything about kvm forum cfp? 15:04:28 <dneary> mburns, It's in progress 15:04:34 <mburns> dneary: not open yet? 15:04:55 <dneary> mburns, I would have to ask Chris Wright 15:05:04 <mburns> ok, i can follow up with him 15:05:15 <mburns> anything else with conferences and workshops? 15:06:09 <mskrivanek> so does it make sense to submit anything for LinuxCon EU when it's parallel to KVM forum? 15:07:07 <mburns> mskrivanek: you get more exposure to the general cloud ecosystem in LinuxCon, i think 15:07:20 <mburns> i'd probably submit to CloudOpen, actually, instead of LinuxCon 15:07:27 <theron> mburns, agreed. 15:07:32 <mburns> (same place, same time, different CFPs...) 15:08:59 <mburns> ok, moving on since we're already over time, but i'll follow up on details of CFPs, etc... 15:09:06 <mburns> #topic Infra Updates 15:09:12 <mburns> ewoud: anything this week? 15:09:22 <dneary> mburns, Nothing beyond http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/kvm-forum 15:09:33 <dneary> CFP hasn't been issued yet AFAIK 15:09:43 <mburns> dneary: that's what it looks like to me too 15:11:38 <mburns> ok, no updates from infra 15:11:46 <mburns> #info no infra updates this week 15:11:49 <mburns> #topic other topics 15:11:56 <mburns> anything else? 15:12:38 <mburns> going once... 15:13:17 <ewoud> mburns: sorry, was away 15:13:50 <mburns> ewoud: anything interesting? or just point to infra minutes? 15:13:51 <ewoud> mburns: infra is looking at how we want to install the rackspace servers with ovirt 15:14:05 <ewoud> but I wasn't really available last meeting 15:14:11 <ewoud> http://resources.ovirt.org/meetings/ovirt/2013/ovirt.2013-06-03-14.24.html 15:14:22 <mburns> #info for infra updates see the minutes 15:14:27 <mburns> #link http://resources.ovirt.org/meetings/ovirt/2013/ovirt.2013-06-03-14.24.html 15:14:40 <mburns> ok, anything else? 15:14:43 <mburns> going twice.. 15:15:13 <mburns> gone. 15:15:18 <mburns> ok, thanks all! 15:15:21 <mburns> #endmeeting