15:03:22 <quaid> #startmeeting oVirt Infra Weekly
15:03:22 <ovirtbot> Meeting started Mon Mar  4 15:03:22 2013 UTC.  The chair is quaid. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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15:03:29 <quaid> #topic Roll call & agenda
15:04:30 <quaid> Introductions
15:04:30 <quaid> Hosting
15:04:30 <quaid> Puppet
15:04:30 <quaid> Summarize the ML thread
15:04:30 <quaid> Jenkins
15:04:32 <quaid> Migration to alterway
15:04:35 <quaid> Other business?
15:04:37 <quaid> Trac review
15:04:40 <quaid> <eolist>
15:05:01 <quaid> I see eedri_ & Rydekull here
15:05:18 <eedri_> i think dcaro is on a puppet course today
15:05:26 <quaid> that's useful :)
15:05:33 <eedri_> :) indeed
15:05:34 <Rydekull> is he becoming a puppeteer?
15:05:47 <eedri_> Rydekull, you can ask him when he's back...
15:06:00 * ewoud here now
15:06:01 <eedri_> Rydekull, more like a 'puppet master'
15:06:56 <Rydekull> I'm going to break quite soon and be a bit more afk, even though i'll be connected through a mobile connection
15:06:57 * quaid narrated an improve piuppet show this weekend, about as non-IT as you can get
15:07:03 <Rydekull> but I need to change location and travel by subway :-)
15:07:12 <quaid> #chair eedri_ ewoud Rydekull
15:07:12 <ovirtbot> Current chairs: Rydekull eedri_ ewoud quaid
15:07:39 <quaid> ok, we'll get rolling and see where it goes
15:07:46 <quaid> #topic Introductions
15:07:59 <quaid> anyone around who is new and wants to introduce themselves?
15:08:44 <dneary> hi all
15:08:54 <eedri_> dneary, hi dave! you'
15:08:58 <eedri_> new? :)
15:10:36 <dneary> eedri_, Just learning the ropes
15:10:51 <Rydekull> quaid: I think sufficient time has been given to rewrite a sentence a few times over :-P
15:11:04 <quaid> sorry, moving between rooms :)
15:11:12 <quaid> #topic Puppet
15:11:35 <quaid> aside from dcaro getting training today, what news have we?
15:12:00 <ewoud> I did have an action item to update foreman, but I haven't had time to work on that
15:12:24 <eedri_> ewoud, is the current foreman running on rpms install?
15:12:32 <eedri_> ewoud, so you'd want to update to latest 1.1 stable?
15:12:36 <ewoud> eedri_: yes
15:12:39 <eedri_> ewoud, cool
15:14:10 <quaid> #info update to latest Foreman is in progress
15:14:27 <ohadlevy> ewoud: yum update ? :)
15:14:28 * ohadlevy runs
15:14:36 <ewoud> ohadlevy: already started :P
15:14:38 <quaid> are we installing the puppet master on one of the VMs at Alter Way?
15:14:53 <quaid> meaning we also need the other services running, etc.
15:14:55 <ewoud> quaid: that is the end goal yes, but I don't want to wait for that
15:15:07 * quaid notices he switched topics around, will have something for Hosting next
15:15:37 <quaid> #info Working up Puppet system in pieces, not waiting for perfect end-state, but we will have various useful services running as VMs at Alter Way
15:15:38 <ewoud> but I think we also need to build a base that's installed on every host
15:16:02 <ewoud> such as configure SSH, ensure sudo is installed etc
15:16:10 <ohadlevy> ewoud: do you know that foreman 1.2 supports spice html5 out of the box for ovirt? :)
15:16:24 <ewoud> ohadlevy: nice :)
15:16:59 <ohadlevy> ewoud: yeah, got it to work even on my phone :)
15:17:09 <quaid> heh
15:17:25 <quaid> ewoud: do we have a page or running list of what goes on each host?
15:17:32 <ewoud> quaid: don't think so
15:17:56 <ewoud> quaid: I think related is the topic of how we get new infra members, but I haven't seen a reply on the ML
15:18:25 <quaid> oops, is there a thread I missed?
15:18:56 <Rydekull> Im not sure I see the relation there
15:19:07 <Rydekull> Relation between puppet and how we get new infra members?
15:19:12 * quaid starts a page
15:19:18 <ewoud> http://lists.ovirt.org/pipermail/infra/2013-February/002157.html & http://lists.ovirt.org/pipermail/infra/2013-February/002158.html
15:19:20 <quaid> http://www.ovirt.org/Infrastructure_Puppet_details
15:19:55 <ewoud> Rydekull: I mixed it up, the first is puppet design, second is new member process
15:20:09 <Rydekull> Right
15:21:17 <ewoud> so please reply to the first link and we can work from there
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15:21:40 <quaid> ok, we can go back to new member process
15:21:52 <eedri_> didn't we write some of it on the etherpad that we made for the new services
15:22:33 <ewoud> eedri_: I vaguely recall something like that, but I wouldn't have a link
15:22:46 * eedri_ looking
15:23:08 <eedri_> http://etherpad.ovirt.org/p/new_hosting_design_Jan_2013
15:23:21 * Rydekull departs, will still respond, just with a longer delay
15:24:00 <ewoud> eedri_: thanks
15:24:24 <eedri_> bless google for browser history...
15:24:53 * quaid thought that was the browser who tracked that
15:25:37 <eedri_> i meant chrome browser... so i guess it's google
15:26:18 <ewoud> ok, can we continue this on the ML?
15:26:32 <quaid> yes, and we can put our answers and stuff in that wiki page?
15:26:54 <quaid> ok, I'm ready to go back and do the Hosting topic, if we're ready
15:27:03 <ewoud> ok
15:27:05 <eedri_> +1
15:27:24 <quaid> #topic Hosting
15:27:46 <quaid> #info quaid now has the base details he needs to be able to install on the RackSpace hosts
15:27:53 <eedri_> +1
15:27:58 <quaid> #info quaid still working on RHEL entitlements for those hosts
15:28:18 <quaid> #info hopeful for later this same week for being able to install, still learning the RackSpace how-to do stuff
15:28:20 <eedri_> quaid, we're going to install rhevm on one of them ?
15:28:37 <eedri_> quaid, we still need jenkins vm slaves to replace current ec2
15:28:38 <quaid> ooh, hmm, I don't know if we discussed that? sounds familiar
15:28:51 <ewoud> 1 thing to note is that RHEL doesn't support nested virtualisation
15:28:59 <eedri_> ewoud, true
15:29:01 <ewoud> eedri_: I thought we wanted ovirt on rackspace as well
15:29:01 <quaid> oh carp, i forgot that
15:29:09 <eedri_> ewoud, i don't mind
15:29:22 <eedri_> ewoud, but i'm not sure we can install ovirt on rhel yet, no?
15:29:32 <ewoud> eedri_: correct
15:29:45 <quaid> so we need to actually get RHEV to have virt
15:30:12 <eedri_> rhev entitelments instead of rhel?
15:30:24 <quaid> right
15:30:30 <ewoud> but with rhev you don't have an all in one
15:30:40 <ewoud> so would you host the manager in a rackspace VM?
15:30:51 <eedri_> ewoud, i think you do, in 3.1
15:30:52 <dyasny> ewoud, sure you do, not supported for production
15:31:58 <quaid> how many entitlements do we need, worst case?
15:32:08 <eedri_> i'd say 3
15:32:18 <eedri_> if we're talking about bare metal servers
15:32:24 <quaid> and at least one RHEL so we can just run that as a slave for Jenkins?
15:32:26 <ewoud> dyasny: ok
15:32:29 <quaid> we've got 2 bare metal there
15:32:32 <eedri_> or do you need the amount of vms we'll run
15:32:47 <quaid> right, how many VMs running RHEL and RHEV?
15:33:09 <eedri_> quaid, when you say RHEV, you mean RHEVH?
15:33:40 <ewoud> but if we want to run node tests don't we want nested virt?
15:33:52 <ewoud> which would argue for fedora 18 + ovirt
15:34:06 <eedri_> ewoud, nested virt is a good option to save "wasting" bare metal hosts
15:34:07 * Rydekull doesnt understand why sd need rhel / rhev at all
15:34:18 <eedri_> ewoud, we'll need that also for testing ovirt auto tests
15:34:23 <ewoud> eedri_: exactly
15:34:27 <eedri_> ewoud, i.e using rest/sdk for adding hosts ,etc...
15:34:56 <eedri_> quaid, i'd say maybe install f18 on one of the racksapce
15:35:07 <eedri_> so we'll be able to use both options
15:35:11 <eedri_> and we won't be limited
15:35:44 <ewoud> eedri_: and on the other just rhel + jenkins slave?
15:35:57 <quaid> Rydekull: primarily, test coverage - being able to test on RHEL is a nice thing; secondarily, a sponsor offered it because they would like to see us running some RHE* in our environment.
15:36:16 <eedri_> ewoud, we'll need multiple jenkins slaves
15:36:23 <eedri_> ewoud, i imagine they will all be vms
15:36:38 <eedri_> ewoud, so they can be eithr on ovirt running on f18 or on rhel running rhevm
15:37:11 <eedri_> ewoud, we might want to configure foreman to dynamicly create vms on demand
15:37:12 <ewoud> I'd prefer ovirt then
15:37:45 <ewoud> I know jenkins has a plugin to create VMs using some hypervisors, maybe we can modify that
15:38:02 <eedri_> ewoud, i started to work on a plugin to integration foreman & jenkins
15:38:15 <eedri_> ewoud, i think david can help pick it up
15:38:17 <quaid> heh, so are we thinking the environemnt should be F18-based instead?
15:38:29 <eedri_> quaid, thinking on our requirements
15:38:47 <eedri_> quaid, nested virt is something important to have, since we're limited on bare-metal hosts
15:38:48 <ewoud> quaid: we'll likely still have RHEL VMs, but the host may be better on F18
15:38:51 <quaid> we can still run some RHEL as slaves
15:39:02 <quaid> right
15:39:10 <eedri_> quaid, and it will take some time till nested will be supported on rhel
15:40:12 <quaid> ok
15:41:03 <quaid> ok, so we're not blocking on entitlements, because we are going to install Fedora 18 for at least one RackSpace host, as that will let us simulate the bare metal experience for other VMs
15:41:09 <Rydekull> im still all for centos
15:41:23 <quaid> does CentOS support nested?
15:41:47 <ewoud> no
15:42:10 <eedri_> Rydekull, you need some free bare-metal hosts or nested virt
15:42:12 <ewoud> CentOS aims to be compatible with rhel so very unlikely they add feature
15:42:17 <eedri_> Rydekull, that won't run ovirt instance
15:42:44 <ewoud> so rackspace01 => f18 + ovirt all-in-one, rackspace02 => ?
15:42:45 <eedri_> Rydekull, in order to run automation jobs or other tasks that vms can't
15:43:12 <Rydekull> seriously. can we please put up a design on what we need and why. and stop revisiting the same discussions? :-)
15:43:12 <eedri_> ewoud, i'd say let's keep it open
15:43:34 <eedri_> Rydekull, it's not revisiting, so far we've disscussted on alterway servers
15:43:47 <eedri_> Rydekull, we didn't really agreed on the purpuse of rackspace, afair
15:43:57 <Rydekull> but why would you run it differently everywhere else?
15:43:58 <quaid> on generally, not in detail
15:44:26 <eedri_> Rydekull, we're trying to see if we've coverting all our needs
15:44:27 <ewoud> Rydekull: nested virtualisation is something that was recently asked on the ML and not something we can do with rhel(-based) in the short term
15:45:13 <eedri_> i think we specified the needs here: http://etherpad.ovirt.org/p/new_hosting_design_Jan_2013
15:46:07 <Rydekull> what prevents us from doing nested virtualisation with centos?
15:46:20 <eedri_> Rydekull, not supported on the os
15:46:34 <eedri_> Rydekull, it's a new feature that just came out on fedora recently
15:48:37 <quaid> ok, but we do need to update our plan from that etherpad and finish a discussion, maybe move back to the mailing list with this since it's going on for a bit?
15:48:39 <Rydekull> i dont understand where "not supported" is coming from. what is the enabler that is missing in centos for nested virtualisation? it must be a kernel thing sikce its a cpucall?
15:50:58 <quaid> Rydekull: i'n ot sure off-hand
15:51:09 * quaid has keyboard weirdness
15:51:31 <quaid> shall we finish the RackSpace design discussions on-list?
15:51:33 <eedri_> Rydekull, it was annonced recently as support only on fedora, i imagine it's release on newer kernel/qemu
15:51:38 <ewoud> Rydekull: kernel doesn't support it
15:51:42 <eedri_> Rydekull, that is not yet avaliable on centos or rhel
15:52:07 <eedri_> can we move on to the next topic and move this disscusson to the list?
15:52:22 <eedri_> quaid, ?
15:52:40 <quaid> +1
15:52:57 <quaid> #action moving discussion to list to finish
15:53:03 <quaid> #topic Jenkins
15:53:13 <quaid> anything we didn't cover yet?
15:53:24 <eedri_> jenkins server has migrated to alterway
15:53:37 <eedri_> jenkins.ovirt.org is now redirecting to alterway01.ovirt.org
15:53:53 <eedri_> once we're satisfied with it, we can change the dns record to point to the new server
15:53:53 <ovirtbot> 14[[07Special:Log/newusers14]]4 create210 02 5* 03DNeary 5*  10DNeary created a user account Theron
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15:54:31 <quaid> #info Jenkins has migrated to Alter Way
15:54:31 <eedri_> only think i saw that some users might have issues with thier permissions, so i'll publish it on the lists after the meeting
15:54:45 <quaid> #info jenkins.ovirt.org now redirecting to alterway01.ovirt.org
15:54:46 <eedri_> so anyone with issues can contact infra for issues
15:54:53 <quaid> #info once satisified, we can change DNS
15:55:01 <eedri_> openid plugin has be enabled
15:55:02 <quaid> #action quaid to schedule DNS change with eedri_
15:55:19 <quaid> #info openid plugin is enabled (yay)
15:55:20 <eedri_> each user that has an existing account, can assosicate his user with open id
15:55:31 <eedri_> though it's not without errors unfourtunately
15:55:42 <eedri_> the plugin isn't perfect, i managed to use 'google' provide so far
15:55:53 <eedri_> anyhow, basic auth will still work
15:56:05 <eedri_> new design similar to ovirt.org
15:56:27 <eedri_> if there are any suggestions on colors or ui, i have the custom css so it's possbile to change it
15:57:04 <quaid> cool
15:57:09 <quaid> that's all good news, thank you!
15:57:52 <quaid> anything else on jenkins?
15:58:07 <eedri_> quaid, we need to push forward adding new slaves
15:58:23 <eedri_> quaid, since current ec2 won't be able to hold real jobs per patch from gerrit as we planned
15:58:38 <eedri_> quaid, fastest way is to install ovirt on alterway02 as we planned
15:59:24 <eedri_> also, obasan added new job for ovirt-live builds, that will be published nightly
15:59:36 <ewoud> aren't the rackspace machines already available?
16:00:04 <quaid> ewoud: they are, I didn't get IP & login info until last week though
16:00:07 <ewoud> if so, maybe we can push for f18 fast on at least rackspace01 and wait for EL6 support on alterway02
16:00:51 <quaid> I don't know what is required to do the install yet, I'll start my research but won't be available to focus on it until Wed
16:01:07 <quaid> I'll work on making sure to spread help around ASAP - not sure how to enable others, but I'll look at that too
16:01:09 <ewoud> ovirt all in one shouldn't be that hard
16:01:23 <quaid> should I start witha base F18 install?
16:01:28 <eedri_> i can assist in install if needed
16:01:47 <eedri_> obasan, also has experience with ovirt as well
16:02:00 <ewoud> +1
16:02:27 <obasan> ewoud, pretty simple actually. just install the all in one rpm and run the setup
16:02:39 <ewoud> it's a waste to let them run and do nothing, we can always reinstall if needed
16:02:40 <obasan> I will gladly help
16:02:51 <eedri_> +1
16:02:52 <ewoud> obasan: I think that covers 'not that hard' :)
16:03:02 <quaid> +1
16:03:13 <quaid> I'll plan on doing that on Wed
16:03:19 <eedri_> quaid, i agree.. they can provide us with credentials
16:03:22 <ewoud> only question is if we want to make the 2 machines a cluster with gluster, but we can answer that later
16:03:23 <eedri_> quaid, and we'll do the rest
16:03:33 <eedri_> quaid, just need to take care of storage
16:03:46 <eedri_> quaid, if we're using external storage such as iscsi or fcp
16:03:46 <ewoud> for performance reasons I would go for local storage now
16:03:47 <quaid> yep, storage is a bit open - lots of it available
16:04:18 <quaid> rax01 has the fast SSD on RAID 10
16:05:17 <ovirtbot> 14[[07Intel Workshop May 2013 CFP14]]4 !N10 02http://www.ovirt.org/index.php?oldid=7814&rcid=8004 5* 03Theron 5* (+4032) 10Created page with "Intel oVirt Workshop  May 2013  |  Call For Participation  All submissions must be received by March 29th, 2013 at 11:55pm (PST).  Ovirt strives to become the first and best t..."
16:06:17 * theron notes that page is under heavy rewrite
16:06:32 <quaid> no worries, not likely you'll get any competitor writers here right now :)
16:06:47 <quaid> ok, are we done with Jenkins topic?
16:06:59 <eedri_> quaid, so just to understnad
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16:07:19 <eedri_> quaid, what is the next server we're expected to use for jenkins slaves? alterway02 or raxs?
16:07:29 <quaid> #action quaid to install F18 + oVirt all-in-one on rackspace01 by Thursday 7 March
16:07:40 <eedri_> +1
16:08:06 <eedri_> final quesion on alterway01
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16:08:24 <eedri_> i imagine that it's not that loaded with running jenkind currently
16:08:41 <quaid> but it sounds as if it will be?
16:08:45 <eedri_> what our thoughs on running additional services (as virtual servers) on it? such as artifactory
16:08:51 <eedri_> quaid, can't tell for sure
16:09:02 * quaid sees rax01 as hosting Jenkins Slaves
16:09:30 <ewoud> eedri_: I think we should use something like munin to monitor the load and check it
16:09:30 <quaid> eedri_: RobertM did work last year to show how much load it would take, and it sounded like it was pretty busy.
16:09:40 <Rydekull> i dont see why we are running it on bare metal to start with. and not in a vm. but i say, ru  other services aswell
16:09:47 <eedri_> ewoud, it has internal monitoring plugin
16:10:15 <eedri_> Rydekull, we had a disscussion on it, and you might be right. we'll need to monitor it in time and perhaps migrate it to a vm
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16:10:34 <eedri_> Rydekull, but since we're not too short on servers now (still got 3 to use), it's not top priority
16:10:49 <ewoud> eedri_: maybe something to keep in mind, but a central monitoring service might be useful, especially if it also does trending
16:10:54 <quaid> +1
16:10:55 <eedri_> +1
16:10:59 <eedri_> nagios/ganglia
16:11:03 <eedri_> can be great
16:11:17 <eedri_> ewoud, and we have puppet classes ready for them already :)
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16:11:39 * ewoud upgraded foreman.ekohl.nl to 1.1 btw
16:11:41 <eedri_> ewoud, they can run on a vm on the ovirt instance
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16:11:43 <quaid> so rax01 is bare metal dedicated to jenkins slaves
16:11:54 <quaid> rax02 is for testing, also having bare metal for KVM testing
16:11:56 <ewoud> will update the config later to do something useful and install some slaves
16:11:57 <eedri_> ewoud, quaid btw, we can install all in one on raxs
16:12:03 <eedri_> and add the other 2 servers as hosts
16:12:10 <eedri_> so all our services will run on vms
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16:12:19 <ewoud> eedri_: can you add the servers over WAN?
16:12:24 <quaid> alterway02 is supposed to house the list of random VMs - mailman, gerrit, etc.
16:12:24 <eedri_> ewoud, good q
16:12:37 <quaid> eedri_: all in one is an RPM, yes?
16:12:47 <eedri_> quaid, yes. it's a plugin for ovirt
16:12:52 <quaid> cool
16:13:03 <ewoud> eedri_: but +1 on having both rackspace servers in a single ovirt
16:13:41 <ewoud> ideally we'd have both alterway servers as well, but that may be something for the long run
16:16:59 <quaid> ok, my brain is starting to drift a bit :) ... as I have a call in a few minutes
16:17:20 <quaid> I think, are we done for the day?
16:17:21 <ewoud> same, so let's conclude
16:17:46 <ewoud> please have a look at the topics I started last week on the ML as linked before
16:17:48 <quaid> ok, I think I'll have to relook at what I'm doing Wed to be sure I do it right, but I'll start early when I can catch people
16:18:04 <quaid> #action all to read and possibly reply to open ML thread on Puppet
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16:18:21 <ewoud> and new member process hasn't received any love either
16:19:53 <quaid> true that
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16:20:03 <quaid> let's put in a new section in the minutes to address, too
16:20:23 <quaid> I suppose that's something I should be able to do since there is so much trapped in my brain still
16:20:38 * quaid has been bad at documenting
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16:21:37 <quaid> #action quaid to add new member discussion to ongoing agenda
16:21:49 <quaid> #action quaid to make some progress on documentation and such around new members by next week
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16:23:32 <quaid> ok, closing out this one
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