15:00:17 #startmeeting oVirt Weekly Meeting 15:00:17 Meeting started Wed Feb 13 15:00:17 2013 UTC. The chair is mburns. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:00:17 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 15:00:24 #topic agenda and roll call 15:00:28 * lh here 15:00:32 #chair dneary oschreib quaid 15:00:32 Current chairs: dneary mburns oschreib quaid 15:00:39 Agenda: 15:00:48 #info Release Status 15:00:54 #info Workshops and Conferences 15:01:00 #info Sub Project Reports 15:01:08 #info Introducing theron 15:01:36 * mburns pauses for people to identify themselves 15:01:47 * Rydekull is here, listening 15:01:53 * oschreib here 15:02:51 * doron mostly here 15:03:02 * dustins here 15:04:13 i'm going to mix up the agenda a bit 15:04:22 to make sure we get to everything 15:04:26 so we'll start with: 15:04:33 #topic Workshops and Conferences 15:04:39 lh: dneary: any news here? 15:05:09 mburns, oVirt Shanghai workshop still on for 8-9 May 2013 at Intel Campus 15:05:24 #info Shanghai Workshop still on for 8-9 May 2013 15:05:29 mburns, planning proceeds apace. I have a message into Susie Li on some logistical details needed before registration can be opened 15:05:42 mburns, I asked Leslie to take over the co-ordination of the Intel hosted workshop in Shanghai in May - I have not been doing it justice 15:05:48 mbetak, and the CFP is in process (theron will have more on that when/after he is introduced) 15:06:05 mburns, It's now in her (and Theron's) capable hands 15:06:21 #info CFP in process, some logistical details still needed before registration can be opened 15:06:23 * dneary sees I was too slow 15:06:30 dneary: ack 15:06:58 hmm...maybe i should have done the introduction first... 15:07:09 theron: want to give an update on the CFP? 15:07:22 then we can have you introduce yourself in the next #topic 15:07:43 in progress is the best update at this point.... 15:07:50 * mgoldboi here 15:07:56 theron: ok 15:08:02 me too 15:08:06 * vfeenstr too 15:08:07 -_- 15:08:07 lh: anything else to report? 15:08:15 mbetak, that's all i have 15:08:20 er 15:08:22 mbetak, sorry 15:08:25 mburns, that's all i have 15:08:39 lh: thanks 15:08:49 #topic Introducing theron 15:09:06 lh: theron: who is doing the honors? 15:09:12 I'll jump in. 15:09:21 My name is Theron Conrey, I'm new to the Carl Trieloff's team at Redhat, the open source and standards team, working primarily on oVirt support. Currently I'm working on the CFP with lh for Shangai, and Dave will busy mentoring me to get me up to speed on all things oVirt. I'm coming from Nexenta where I was a solutions architect designing and implementing large scale cloud solutions. I'm excited to join the community and help where I can. 15:10:02 feel free to pepper me with questions. 15:10:08 welcome theron 15:10:12 thanks! 15:10:13 Welcome :) 15:10:18 Folks who attended the oVirt workshop at NetApp HQ may have already had the opportunity to meet Theron at that time, as he was gracious enough to attend to get up to speed before he'd started officially at Red Hat. 15:10:19 welcome! 15:10:19 welcome 15:10:36 #info My name is Theron Conrey, I'm new to the Carl Trieloff's team at Redhat, the open source and standards team, working primarily on oVirt support. Currently I'm working on the CFP with lh for Shangai, and Dave will busy mentoring me to get me up to speed on all things oVirt. I'm coming from Nexenta where I was a solutions architect designing and implementing large scale cloud solutions. I'm excited to join the community and help where I can. 15:11:01 bienvenidos theron 15:11:17 #chair mgoldboi ewoud 15:11:17 Current chairs: dneary ewoud mburns mgoldboi oschreib quaid 15:11:27 ok, moving on 15:11:40 theron: feel free to jump in with any thoughts you have 15:11:50 #topic Infra Team Report 15:11:56 ewoud: quaid: any news? 15:12:25 #info we've fixed logins, now in the last planning phase before actually installing 15:13:05 trying to decide on how what software we're going to use (ovirt 3.1 or 3.2) now 15:13:05 #info for the AlterWay servers ^^ 15:13:23 #info set a deadline for next monday to decide on software 15:13:39 I think that's the most important news now 15:13:49 mburns, I have a few updates here 15:14:16 #info discussion on what software is happening on list 15:14:18 dneary: go ahead 15:14:31 I talked to Stéphane Vincent yesterday and asked about the possibility of having a console to access our VMs running on our second server 15:14:48 He will check internally and get back to me before the weekend. 15:15:26 The main issue is that they do not expose the user console to their cloud customers, so this would require them to do some set-up to provide us with a separate network and spin up & manage VMs for us 15:15:38 #info dneary working on getting a console to access vms running on the second server 15:15:52 dneary: if we use ovirt, then don't we get the console? 15:16:01 since we have access to the first server? 15:16:09 He will let me know what he is prepared to do - but it sounds like running it as an all-in-one and managing our own VMs through ovirt-engine might be our easiest option 15:16:34 mburns, We have access to both servers 15:17:07 currently we have 2 dedicated servers, but if they already host oVirt it may be easier to just create VMs there in a quota 15:17:12 dneary, how many servers do we have there? 15:17:23 got it 15:17:24 2 15:17:25 mgoldboi, Two 15:17:35 One other update: dcaro noticed that the servers were CentOS 5.8 15:17:38 but we could always migrate our VMs when that's possible and go for an all-in-one solution now 15:18:02 dneary, so all-in-one will restrict on the clustering/vm migration we can do there 15:18:04 dneary: Kevin is planning to reinstall tomorrow, pending our decission on CentOS 6 or Fedora 15:18:09 I checked with kmazière whether there was a reason for it, and he assured me hat there wasn't - he can re-install the servers with CentOS 6.3 15:18:22 ewoud, Ah, great! I missed that thread 15:18:41 #info infra team working out deployment details 15:18:46 dneary: http://lists.ovirt.org/pipermail/infra/2013-February/002047.html 15:18:48 mgoldboi, We could also install the engine on alterway01, and have VMs on alterway02 15:19:02 #info hosts currently are centos 5.8, will be centos 6.3 or f18 when infra team decides what to use 15:19:39 discussion is on the infra mailing list if anyone is interested 15:20:45 great, anything else from the infra team? 15:21:26 ewoud, I see no reason to revisit the previous discussion about the OS to use - we should use CentOS 6.3 15:21:46 That's what we agreed in December 15:22:08 dneary, not such a clear cut- we should aim there, but right now we aren't packaging 3.2 for it 15:22:09 dneary: mburns said earlier that CentOS may not be that well tested, but I'd prefer CentOS on a server over Fedora 15:22:46 i think we should make every effort to run on centos if possible 15:22:58 ewoud, I think most of our users would prefer RHEL or CentOS too 15:23:09 mburns: could you (get someone to) package ovirt 3.2 (beta) for EL6? 15:23:13 http://resources.ovirt.org/releases/beta/rpm/ doesn't list it 15:23:23 mburns, +1 effort is being done, oschreib is on the making of it 15:23:33 ewoud: that's more mgoldboi and oschreib 15:23:48 and not sure who is doing the vdsm side of it 15:24:05 * Rydekull really suggest stop discussing OS and just go with CentOS. 15:24:07 fsimonce`: do you know if anyone is working on el6 rpms for vdsm for 3.2? 15:24:27 Rydekull: yes, then we need packages :) 15:24:30 mburns, what rpm exactly? 15:24:44 fsimonce`: all vdsm rpms 15:24:48 Well, there's ovirt-engine at http://www.dreyou.org/ovirt/ 15:24:55 (not official by us, though) 15:25:06 oschreib: we should try to use our packages if at all possible 15:25:22 the dreyou packages are good, but they're a hybrid mix of some 3.1 and some 3.2 stuff 15:25:30 won't be upgradable 15:25:30 mburns, no, we *cannot* do that... we cannot provide vdsm in el6 they would override rh* downstream packages 15:26:06 mburns, as long as I know there are only hooks there 15:26:16 mburns: I don't see how "our own" .el6 build will be much different 15:26:16 fsimonce`, I believe the plan is to do just that 15:26:24 mburns, anyway as far as I know there should be a jenkins job 15:26:35 mburns: I didn't see any 3.1/3.2 hybrid code in the engine. 15:26:36 fsimonce`: i'm not talking about epel -- these are for people using centos 15:26:55 there's nightly vdsm RPMs 15:27:08 they just have to be available in our beta repo as well 15:27:28 mburns, the ovirt repo should be as far as I know fully automated by jenkins build 15:27:31 ewoud: ok, then we just need to use that to create versions of our beta packages 15:27:40 fsimonce`: not beta and ga 15:27:51 those are manually built (or built in koji for Fedora rpms) 15:28:01 oschreib, it will be different by the fact we are officially releasing it, and we need to build nighties with it 15:28:24 ok, let's take this out of the meeting -- i'll follow up with it today 15:28:55 #action mburns to follow up on getting el6 rpms available in 3.2 repository 15:29:17 that's going to bring us to the release status 15:29:17 mburns, the fedora 18 build is "stable" as far as I'm concerned... nobody pinged me about any blocker 15:29:35 fsimonce`: right, and we have that build in our repositories now 15:30:03 fsimonce`: we're just looking for an el6 version of that build... 15:30:07 mburns, that's the same that should have been built for el6 (I suppose by an ovirt jenkins job) 15:30:13 asaf, ping 15:30:21 fsimonce`: i'll check after this meeting 15:30:27 mburns, we cannot build that on koji as it would end up in epel 15:30:35 and see if I can build it using the jenkins job 15:30:44 mburns, that's why it has to be an ovirt.org local build 15:30:50 fsimonce`: right 15:31:02 we're just not using jenkins as our official build system quite yet 15:31:30 #topic release status 15:31:47 let the fun begin 15:31:50 ok, so a quick review of where we are right now 15:32:00 ovirt-node is available and posted as of last night 15:32:10 i've confirmed that it works with the current engine build 15:32:13 mburns, congrats 15:32:17 The oVirt Guest Agent has now been officially accepted as package. Please find the package Database Entry: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/acls/name/ovirt-guest-agent 15:32:20 Current status can be reviewed here: 15:32:22 For Fedora 17: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/ovirt-guest-agent-1.0.6-4.fc17 15:32:25 For Feodra 18: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/ovirt-guest-agent-1.0.6-4.fc18 15:32:30 as package in Fedora ;) 15:32:35 and have nfs guests running 15:32:42 vfeenstr: excellent 15:32:43 oschreib, did you get dwh/reports packages for 3.2 release? 15:33:08 engine packages for f18 are available in the beta repo now and can go to GA as well 15:33:18 mgoldboi: I got them today 15:33:22 unless something came up in the last 24 hours... 15:33:25 I'm uploading them atm 15:33:35 wait guys 15:34:07 there are 3 new patches in engine_3.2 (committed after last Friday, in which I uploaded the new version) 15:34:20 oschreib: so we need a new build? 15:34:52 oschreib, let's go over the bugs 15:35:19 mburns: I suspect so 15:35:28 mgoldboi: and the gluster thingy isn't in yet 15:35:43 mburns, http://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/q/status:open+project:ovirt-engine+branch:engine_3.2,n,z 15:36:37 ok, so these are obviously important since they got into 3.2 15:36:50 what's the gluster thing that isn't in yet? 15:37:00 mburns, verification 15:37:07 mburns, i'll push it 15:37:18 mgoldboi: is there risk in the change? 15:37:30 we're supposed to be shipping today 15:37:36 (or tomorrow at the latest) 15:37:56 mburns, risk is always there, but it's already merged in master 15:38:01 and we have 3 patches and this gluster issue that are not merged yet 15:38:11 which means no build yet, which means no release 15:38:24 unless we say that they can go in an async update 15:38:28 if we're uploading new build, we can't release in 1 fday 15:38:42 we should give it few days to see if anything comes up 15:39:04 and then another few days when something does come up 15:39:09 let's release and go async with what we are left with 15:39:12 how critical are these patches? 15:40:04 Fix for file.tlv.redhat.com:/home/tlv/ydary/ovirt-3.2-rpms 15:40:07 ops 15:40:16 fix for https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=908392 15:40:25 fix for https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=902242 15:40:41 fix for https://bugzilla.redhat.com/906291 15:40:47 (that's what the commit says) 15:41:29 906291 is the only one that sounds like a blocker to me... 15:41:45 but i think even that could go async 15:41:47 mburns, +1 15:41:54 +1 15:42:33 ok, so no more blocker issues with any of the major components 15:42:49 so we just need to get the reports/dwh stuff uploaded and flip some links around 15:43:02 maybe do some cleanup of the releases area as well 15:43:08 since uploading dwh/reports takes some time 15:43:24 I suggest that we will prepare everything 15:43:27 if guest-agent is now in fedora, can we drop it from the ovirt repos? 15:43:43 mburns: yes, if this build is in Fedora18 15:43:52 bah, it's in testing still 15:43:56 mburns: and release it tomorrow 15:44:04 mburns, not sure actually 15:44:06 if people give karma, then we can drop guest-agent 15:44:26 oschreib: +1 on releasing tomorrow 15:44:47 oschreib: i'll create a new directory on resources and get the right content there 15:44:49 mburns, ovirt suppose to be upstream while fedora is additional distro 15:45:11 and we can simply drop in reports/dwh when it's uploaded 15:45:11 mburns, srpms should be in ovirt anyhow 15:45:20 mgoldboi: src tarballs, yes 15:45:40 mburns, correct 15:45:47 mgoldboi: i'm fine with continuing to carry the guest agent rpms as well 15:46:41 mburns, can you summarize all action items for the release 15:47:19 #action mburns to create release repo in resources.ovirt.org 15:47:31 #action mburns to get latest packages moved over from current beta repo 15:47:44 #action mburns to get guest-agent rpms and source from koji and upload 15:47:55 #action oschreib to get dwh/reports rpms uploaded 15:48:02 #action mburns to write announcement 15:48:23 #action mburns to look into vdsm on el6 15:48:35 mgoldboi: oschreib: who is doing el6 for engine? 15:49:01 mburns: I'm taking care of it, although it might take some time 15:49:20 #action oschreib to work on el6 engine rpms 15:49:24 sgordon_, thank you! 15:49:33 oschreib: ok, something we can update as we go... 15:49:34 karim, ? 15:49:55 mgoldboi: oschreib: anything i'm forgetting? 15:49:56 sgordon_, the bugzilla regarding attach of cdrom when vm s online! 15:50:02 mburns, regarding the missing patches 15:50:27 #action mgoldboi and oschreib to work on remaining 3.2 engine patches and post new build async 15:50:35 rbarry, nice to see your first patch :) 15:50:47 hmm...we need to update some wiki pages too 15:51:09 mburns, do we have a list of them? 15:51:16 i don't 15:51:27 the 3.2 release page is one 15:51:35 the getting ovirt page is another 15:51:45 we should probably have an announcement on the front page as well 15:52:23 #action mburns to review wiki/website updates that are needed 15:52:33 mburns, who has permissions on home page? 15:52:49 mgoldboi: i don't know, but i'll harass dneary until i do 15:52:55 haha 15:53:05 mburns, The oVirt home page? 15:53:11 dneary: yes 15:53:12 Anyone in the admin group for the wiki 15:53:25 fabiand: It is, isn't it? Even if it's quite terse. 15:53:43 dneary: what do i need to do to get into the admin group? 15:53:56 rbarry, In my opinion those are the best ones :) 15:55:06 http://www.ovirt.org/index.php?title=Special%3AListUsers&username=&group=sysop&limit=50 15:55:42 dneary: yes, that's the list of people currently in the group 15:55:47 how do i join the group? 15:56:11 * mburns writes a cron job to spam dneary and quaid every 5 min until he gets access... 15:56:19 ;-) 15:56:24 mburns, reload that page 15:56:42 dneary: woot! 15:56:43 thanks 15:56:47 * mburns cancels cron job 15:57:02 ok, so anything else to discuss? 15:57:09 either release specific or in general? 15:57:12 * dneary thanks mburns turning off the spam cron job 15:57:45 if nothing else, /me will #endmeeting 15:57:48 going once... 15:57:59 mburns, 15:58:10 so just to be clear we are targeting release tomorrow 15:58:11 * mburns stops countdown 15:58:16 mgoldboi: yes 15:58:24 #info release targeted to be announced tomorrow 15:58:33 though, i hope to have most of it ready to go today 15:58:35 mburns, all action items should be resolved by EOD tomorrow 15:58:51 ack 15:58:58 ack from my side as well 15:59:09 karim, oh right - i actually did that yesterday but bugzilla mail is having a bit of a go slow 15:59:22 mburns: sgordon_: any PR around 3.2? 15:59:49 heh, cheryn and team did release notes i believe - i dont have anything else afaik 16:00:08 sgordon_, while you are temporary here - docs rpm? 16:00:16 what docs rpm? 16:00:22 :P 16:00:29 (seriously) 16:01:21 sgordon_, http://gerrit.ovirt.org/gitweb?p=ovirt-docs.git;a=shortlog;h=refs%2Fheads%2Fmaster 16:01:49 mgoldboi, the only thing in that repo is the 3.0 install guide 16:02:25 mgoldboi, i was dissuaded from pursuing that and we elected to use the quick start in wiki that jbrooks created 16:02:48 sgordon_, ok 16:03:09 ok, so we need a review of the quick start in the wiki, as well 16:03:10 (fwiw we never delivered that as an rpm anyway, just a pdf) 16:03:20 mgoldboi: can you review the quickstart? 16:03:22 mburns: mgoldboi: reports/dwh uploaded and in 3.2 dir 16:03:31 oschreib: excellent, thanks 16:03:33 mburns, sure 16:03:49 #action mgoldboi to review/update the quick start guide for 3.2 16:03:54 # link http://www.ovirt.org/Quick_Start_Guide 16:04:09 #link http://www.ovirt.org/Quick_Start_Guide 16:04:22 anything else? 16:05:05 mburns: once again, PR? 16:05:26 what have we done in the past? 16:05:35 blog posts? twitter? etc? 16:05:41 * mburns wasn't involved in any of that 16:06:01 mburns: sgordon_ and someone which I don't remember took care of it. 16:06:15 probably jbrooks 16:06:19 indeed 16:06:32 I'll be blogging, and tweeting 16:06:44 excellent 16:06:46 thanks jbrooks 16:07:00 anything else we need aside from the wiki stuff and email announcement that i'll be sending? 16:07:19 #action mburns to update irc channel topic as well 16:08:01 I don't think we'll need other materials, but the more community members who can take part in the blogging/word spreading, the better 16:08:27 ok, great 16:08:45 #action All Community Members to tweet/blog/spread the word 16:08:51 :) 16:09:05 (but only if they have good things to say!) 16:09:20 ok, last call for topics 16:09:22 going once... 16:10:56 thanks mburns and all for the warm welcome! 16:11:08 twice.. 16:11:11 theron: ;-) 16:11:51 gone. 16:11:53 thanks all 16:11:56 #endmeeting