15:10:20 <ewoud> #startmeeting 15:10:20 <ovirtbot> Meeting started Mon Jan 28 15:10:20 2013 UTC. The chair is ewoud. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:10:20 <ovirtbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 15:10:31 <ewoud> #chair dneary dcaro eedri 15:10:31 <ovirtbot> Current chairs: dcaro dneary eedri ewoud 15:10:37 <ewoud> http://www.ovirt.org/Infrastructure_team_meetings#2013-01-28 15:10:47 * Rydekull is here 15:11:01 <dneary> ewoud, Yes we do: http://www.ovirt.org/Infrastructure_team_meetings#2013-01-28 15:11:24 <dneary> #info Agenda: http://www.ovirt.org/Infrastructure_team_meetings#2013-01-28 15:11:29 * is is in another meeting right now... 15:12:07 <ewoud> spam: 15:12:09 <ewoud> Hosting 15:12:09 <ewoud> Puppet 15:12:09 <ewoud> Jenkins 15:12:09 <ewoud> Gerrit 15:12:09 <dneary> eedri, is? 15:12:11 <ewoud> Other business? 15:12:13 <ewoud> Trac review 15:12:28 <Rydekull> dneary: he did /nick instead of /me :-P 15:12:30 * eedri is in another meeting 15:12:35 <eedri> :) 15:12:36 <ewoud> I'd also like to add FOSDEM to the list 15:12:43 <ewoud> #chair Rydekull 15:12:43 <ovirtbot> Current chairs: Rydekull dcaro dneary eedri ewoud 15:13:02 <dneary> Hosting: Can I get a sitrep from dcaro|mtg, eedri, ewoud please? Does everyone who needs admin access to the Jenkins server have it? 15:13:14 <dneary> And do we have access to a self-service console for the second server? 15:13:25 <ewoud> we also had a suggestion about using the jenkins job builder, but we can discuss that under jenkins 15:13:28 <ewoud> #topic hosting 15:13:50 <ewoud> I haven't tried to access the servers 15:14:19 <dneary> ewoud, Do you have the username & password? 15:14:22 <eedri> i didn't got the details.. 15:14:26 <eedri> or i missed the email on them... 15:14:32 <dneary> Or failing that: I think quaid uploaded your ssh key 15:14:34 <ewoud> neither did I 15:14:43 <dneary> eedri, Hmmm 15:14:46 <dneary> OK 15:14:50 <ewoud> also not sure which IPs 15:15:07 <dneary> #action dneary to ensure that ewoud, eedri and dcaro get admin access to Jenkins server 15:15:21 <dneary> ewoud, I can send the IPs on 15:16:25 * Rydekull has got a slight update on "inifiniband"-subject if that goes under hosting 15:16:27 <ewoud> dneary: could you also poke quaid about the logins for linode01? 15:16:38 <eedri> ewoud, i think quaid is ooo 15:16:45 <dneary> ewoud, quaid is on vacation this week & next week 15:16:54 <dneary> ewoud, What information do you need? 15:17:05 <dneary> He made sure to have cover for himself on everything 15:17:05 <Rydekull> Hehe, well, he said he should add me and ewoud as administrator 15:17:12 <Rydekull> havnt seen any notice of such happening, though 15:17:24 <ewoud> dneary: about that, we haven't received logins 15:17:28 <dneary> #action dneary to check who can add Rydekull and ewoud as admins for linode1 15:17:55 <dneary> Are you guys done giving me extra stuff to do now? ;-) 15:18:07 <Rydekull> You're welcome :-) 15:18:16 <dneary> Thank you! 15:18:42 <Rydekull> But, infiniband-stuff, I got a preliminary ETA of 2 weeks until we hopefully can access it 15:18:54 <dneary> Rydekull, Great! 15:19:46 <eedri> dneary, try mburns, i think he gave me access 15:20:07 <ewoud> eedri: dcaro|mtg you made any progress on installing alterway? 15:20:22 <eedri> ewoud, like i said, i didn't got details on the servers yet 15:20:32 <dcaro|mtg> ewoud, me neither 15:20:40 <dneary> OK 15:20:42 <ewoud> so preparations on VMs / puppet either? 15:20:53 * dneary absents himself from the meeting to take care of that. 15:20:58 <dneary> Carry on without me 15:21:17 <eedri> ewoud, dcaro|mtg is working on puppet classes, but they will be used only later, when foreman + puppet will be ready 15:21:18 <ewoud> #info no progress on new hosting due to missing credentials 15:21:24 <eedri> ewoud, 1st jenkins install will be manual 15:21:43 <ewoud> #info first jenkins install will be manual, puppetized later on 15:21:59 <eedri> ewoud, after we'll have a foreman/puppet vms running, we'll make sure jenkins is managed 15:22:08 <ewoud> #action dneary ensure people receive logins 15:22:13 <ewoud> I think that's enough about hosting now 15:22:29 <ewoud> and I think we can skip puppet on the agenda 15:22:33 <ewoud> #topic jenkins 15:22:52 <eedri> current rhel vms (ec2) were upgraded to 6.3 15:23:04 <ewoud> #info current rhel vms (ec2) were upgraded to 6.3 15:23:34 <ewoud> are the issues from vdsm on rhel now resolved? 15:23:45 <eedri> there was a request to create a new job to publishing reports on ovirt.org 15:23:51 * eedri is fetching infor from trac 15:24:33 <eedri> https://fedorahosted.org/ovirt/ticket/34 15:25:16 <eedri> not sure when we can start working on, probably after jenkins migration 15:25:22 <eedri> the issues on vdsm are solved 15:25:36 <eedri> #info python-nose1.1 was installed and linked on rhel vms 15:25:56 <ewoud> ok 15:26:01 <dneary> ewoud, Rydekull: Can you both send mburns your public ssh key, please? He can set you up on linode1 15:26:18 <dneary> ewoud, Rydekull: Along with your preferred username 15:26:23 <ewoud> will do 15:27:13 <ewoud> I'd like to mention jenkins-job-builder 15:27:47 <ewoud> it was suggested by an external person and I'm not sure we handled it well 15:28:00 <ewoud> maybe we should have encouraged / supported him more to attract more infra 15:28:36 <eedri> ewoud, the jenkins-jobs-builder is an advanced feature used by openstack for dynamicly createing and managing jenkins jobs 15:29:12 <eedri> personally i'm not familiar with it yet, and i'm not sure if it's needed at this stage of ovirt jenkins infra 15:29:20 <ewoud> eedri: to me it looked like moving the jenkins job configuration to yaml files, thus versioning your build configs as well 15:29:45 <ewoud> but I'm more wondering how we handled it 15:30:02 <eedri> ewoud, true, but it comes with a price of limited option to update jobs 15:30:03 <ewoud> by saying no we don't encourage people to join the team 15:30:22 <eedri> ewoud, i don't think he was really interested in joining infra 15:30:35 <ewoud> maybe dneary has a better view on this 15:30:42 <eedri> ewoud, it seems that the main purpose was to use ovirt infra for other opensource projects 15:31:03 <dneary> ewoud, ? 15:31:04 <eedri> ewoud, at least in my view 15:31:52 <ewoud> dneary: I'm wondering how we should handle new people with ideas that may not directly align with the current infra goals 15:32:18 <dneary> ewoud, In general, we should encourage them, but we should not feel obliged to say yes to every idea 15:32:44 <dneary> ewoud, One of the advantages of self-service VMs is that you can allow someone a sand-box to prove the usefulness of an idea 15:33:11 <ewoud> dneary: yes, and I think we should aim to be able to support that asap 15:33:18 <eedri> ewoud, i think that people should show interest or commitment to the project, before we accept any idea they propose... 15:33:30 <dneary> ewoud, I agree 15:33:49 <eedri> ewoud, if any new user comes and just suggest to change the world... we shouldn't just jump and implement it 15:33:52 <dneary> eedri, Does proposing an idea and offering to do the work to make it a reality not count as interest in the project? 15:33:54 <Rydekull> I agree, though speaking as someone who is trying to get involved 15:34:04 <Rydekull> Its not, easy, per see to get involved 15:34:19 * Rydekull is a bit lagged right now, just fyi 15:34:43 <ewoud> it's a fine line, but I think we should at least help them think our their idea and get a decent proposal in place 15:34:52 <eedri> dneary, he didn't just proposed an idea, he proposed merging all infra for foreman,pulp,ovirt 15:34:58 <Rydekull> And i do agree that the user that was here earlier wasnt really set to join the infra-team 15:35:15 <dneary> eedri, I'm speaking in general, did not see this particular thread 15:35:18 <eedri> at least jenkins.. , that doesn't seem like a seriois suggesion 15:35:32 <eedri> ok 15:35:42 <ewoud> would it be a fair conclusion that we should be aware how we present ourselves? as Rydekull said,, it can be hard to join 15:35:46 <eedri> but i agree we should try to formalize handing this kind of inteactions 15:36:19 <ewoud> I'd really like to have this kind of discussion over a beer at fosdem ;) 15:36:26 <Rydekull> :-D 15:36:40 <eedri> i wish i could join, got my MBA exams on that dates :/ 15:36:44 <ewoud> :( 15:36:45 <ewoud> moving on to the next topic 15:36:50 <ewoud> #topic gerrit 15:36:51 <ewoud> any news? 15:37:54 <ewoud> it seems not 15:37:58 <ewoud> #topic fosdem 15:38:13 <ewoud> I know quaid will attend, as will I 15:38:26 <ewoud> dneary: you're even giving a talk I think? 15:38:42 <Rydekull> Still unsure, need to get my schedule together. But I intend to do what I can to get there 15:38:45 <dneary> ewoud, Yes, in the community marketing and development room 15:38:59 <dneary> I'll be in the virt devroom most of Saturday, though 15:39:14 <dneary> There are lots of oVirt presentations 15:39:26 <ewoud> I heard quaid talk about planning on handing out stickers at the beer event as well 15:39:27 <eedri> is there a room on automation /jenkins? 15:39:41 <fabiand> eedri, yep 15:40:28 <ewoud> I think you mean https://fosdem.org/2013/schedule/track/configuration_systems_management/ 15:41:16 <ewoud> should we at least try to get a short meet & greet with everyone there? 15:41:38 <Rydekull> Yes 15:41:44 <eedri> looks nice 15:41:55 <ewoud> #action ewoud propose a time to meet at fosdem 15:42:08 <ewoud> #topic trac review 15:43:08 <ewoud> https://fedorahosted.org/ovirt/report/1 15:43:47 <ewoud> anything we should discuss here? 15:44:25 <ewoud> https://fedorahosted.org/ovirt/ticket/31 Licensing (rights) link disappears when graphic is not used 15:44:31 <ewoud> dneary: can you look at that? 15:45:00 <dneary> ewoud, Sorry, was looking through archives to get info on adding you guys to the Jenkins host 15:45:06 <dneary> look at what? 15:45:13 <ewoud> dneary: ticket #31 15:46:58 <ewoud> #topic Other business? 15:47:01 <ewoud> anything? 15:47:26 <ewoud> dneary: eedri Rydekull dcaro|mtg 15:47:36 * Rydekull shakes his head 15:47:48 <eedri> nope 15:48:01 <ewoud> going once 15:48:03 <ewoud> going twice 15:48:04 <dneary> ewoud, I don't understand the bug report 15:48:11 <dneary> I think it can wait until quaid comes back 15:48:18 <ewoud> dneary: ok 15:48:27 <dneary> Thanks for running the meeting ewoud! 15:48:33 <ewoud> you're welcome :) 15:48:36 <ewoud> #endmeeting