21:03:06 #startmeeting ovirt.org OpenShift transfer session 21:03:06 Meeting started Thu Nov 29 21:03:06 2012 UTC. The chair is quaid. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 21:03:06 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 21:03:18 just to make documenting easier, we can use meetbot (since we're not rebooting anything) 21:03:38 we should have a sitenotice if it was aplicable 21:03:57 I guess a notice on the front page is OK 21:04:18 (we're not really going to break the wiki, but people may need to refresh their browser) 21:04:59 14[[07Features/Design/DetailedExternalEvents14]]4 !10 02http://wiki.ovirt.org/w/index.php?diff=6164&oldid=6163&rcid=6293 5* 03Emesika 5* (+485) 10/* Permissions on Entities */  21:05:08 oops 21:05:47 dneary: make it quick, please 21:06:13 14[[07Main Page14]]4 10 02http://wiki.ovirt.org/w/index.php?diff=6165&oldid=5538&rcid=6294 5* 03DNeary 5* (+203) 10Maintenance mode 21:06:17 thx 21:06:47 I'd a put it at the top of each page if I could wuickly do it, but I don't have access to the theme 21:06:59 #info just started the backup script /root/bin/mediawiki.sh that locks the wiki before backing up the database and files 21:07:10 well, it won't affect people reading the wiki 21:07:18 and the readonly mode puts a notice in the page when people try to edit 21:07:23 or, rather, save an edit iirc 21:09:16 #info wiki.ovirt.org now set to readonly with a notice about migration to OpenShift 21:09:32 quaid, Phone 21:09:37 Will be back in a few 21:17:49 dneary: I am about to push the change to openshift to make that wiki readonly as well 21:17:55 so that will restart the gear 21:18:07 ok 21:18:18 #info new wiki in readonly mode by pushing change to LocalSettings.php 21:18:39 #info 'rhc port-forward -a wiki' to setup port forwarding for uploading the new database 21:19:34 quaid: does #info work when you're not in a meeting? 21:20:08 mburns, quaid started a meeting for this 21:21:00 #info 'mysql -u admin -h127.7.52.129 -pPASSWORD openshift_mediawiki < mediawiki_db_backup-20121129.sql' is now uploading the refreshed database 21:21:02 jbrooks: ahh, just no new /topic 21:21:25 oh, did ovirtbot lose ops? 21:21:36 yep 21:21:43 thus no topic change 21:21:52 RobertM: can you op ovirtbot? 21:22:01 we'll set a maintenance topic that way, I reckon 21:22:21 dneary: data transfer has begun, according to the upload monitor from here 21:22:26 I'm going to rsync files 21:22:48 quaid: there, ovirtbot has ops now 21:22:52 thx 21:22:54 quaid, looks like mburns bet me to it. 21:22:56 forgot you can do that too 21:23:05 #chair dneary mburns RobertM 21:23:05 Current chairs: RobertM dneary mburns quaid 21:23:07 (just in case) 21:23:08 quaid: had to op myself first... 21:23:27 #topic Migrating www.ovirt.org to OpenShift, site may change or disappear temporarily; Wiki is frozen 21:25:42 quaid: just a thought -- might want to send outage to announce@ and users@ for wiki/site outages... 21:25:52 for future outages... 21:28:22 mburns: this is not an outage for users 21:28:30 the content will be available readonly throughout 21:28:49 mburns: so i contemplated that but didn't end up doing it because ... well, I just didn't :) 21:28:49 quaid: not all wiki editers are on arch@ 21:29:00 mburns: they should be :D 21:29:05 perhaps... 21:29:08 in fairness there is also a maintenance banner on the page 21:29:14 not all wiki editors are on announce@ either, I guess 21:29:16 sgordon: yep 21:29:22 quaid: but they should be on users@ 21:29:24 we have to have one email list that is for hitting all contributors 21:29:43 isnt that what announce is for? or dont we have the other lists subbed to it 21:30:04 sgordon: no, announce doesn't send to other lists 21:30:09 fair enough 21:30:14 (and shouldn't, imo) 21:30:53 but i think announce should be the default for site outages (even if it's just a maintenance window that might not cause any downtime) 21:31:36 #agreed Infra team change process and outage management needs to include sending email to too many lists rather than too few, e.g. users@, announce@, etc. 21:31:56 just forwarded to those lists, thanks for the catch 21:32:01 quaid: i forwarded to announce and users.. 21:32:04 quaid_transparency-- 21:32:05 oops 21:32:06 oh... 21:32:09 oh well... 21:32:11 I guess we both just did :) 21:32:16 too many is better than not enough... 21:32:17 but at least I got a mea culpa in there 21:32:19 right 21:32:29 ok, /me goes back to other work 21:32:31 dneary: mysql is still uploading 21:32:33 ping if you need me 21:32:49 dneary: I have a change in git ready to go to add in the new files, but I don't want to jam my upload bandwidth yet 21:32:52 mburns: thanks! 21:32:58 quaid, Are you picking up the files as well? 21:33:01 yes 21:33:04 Cool 21:33:14 I uploaded company logos earlier 21:33:20 For the Sponsors page 21:33:22 I just did an rsync --- NOT with --delete siince that would have walloped your widgets, as -n showed me 21:33:35 My widgets? 21:33:43 Twitter and Twitter Search? 21:33:52 (neither of them are in use just yet) 21:34:09 stuff in images/widgets 21:35:57 OK. Don't know exactly what might be in there 21:36:16 Shouldn't be anything... 21:37:25 kk 21:39:12 dneary: when the sql is done, I can push the images I have, then I have to go for a short bit 21:39:30 dneary: you can reach me via mobile - text or whatever - I'll be back at console in :45 21:39:35 quaid, Do you want me to do the redirects? 21:39:49 for the /releases? 21:39:50 yes plz 21:39:55 Cat you /msg cellphone #? I probably have it, but just to be sure... 21:40:29 you can also use gtalk to chat to my handset 21:40:38 and I can ssh here easily 21:41:09 dneary: I'm going to leave it to you to change LocalSettings.php back to writeable 21:41:18 I have to walk out the door, so I'm going to push the git commit 21:41:25 it will slow down the dbase upload a bit, sorry 21:41:28 It's not writable? 21:41:43 nope, see last commit before this one 21:41:43 I don't understand 21:41:46 Ah, OK 21:41:49 Will pull 21:42:02 I turned off the target wiki so we don't write to it while I'm writing the new sql to the dbase 21:42:06 just double-safety 21:42:21 ooh, dbase upload finished 21:42:26 #info dbase upload finished 21:42:38 it's going to be about 10 min for the images to update 21:42:46 then it's all on the OPenShift 21:42:47 bbiab 21:50:20 hmm 22:33:25 dneary: I'm back 22:33:32 well, at least back on the console 22:40:35 working on the DNS situation 22:44:40 quaid, Not much happened 22:44:48 quaid, I'm falling asleep here :-( 22:45:05 Looking for info on site nav & page rename 22:45:16 "front âge" 22:45:31 dneary, I notice that this is the older, more ambitious text; http://wiki-ovirt.rhcloud.com/Download 22:47:55 jbrooks, it should get over-written with the new Download page 22:48:10 quaid, Discovered how to change which page is the front page 22:48:20 quaid, Is the database copy done now? 22:48:31 I lmean, is the new data live? 22:48:41 the develop page has the new content 22:49:20 ! - I updated that sidebar already 22:49:26 and it's different now 22:50:06 http://wiki.ovirt.org/wiki/Download is different 22:50:14 That is what is supposed to go live 22:50:56 quaid, Can you let me know when the data is live, please? I want to work on changing the main page 22:53:18 dneary: umm 22:53:22 13:42 < quaid> ooh, dbase upload finished 22:53:28 it's been live for over an hour 22:53:31 sorry that wasn't clear 22:54:02 quaid, for some reason, the Download page at least doesn't appear to have updated 22:54:14 quaid, Why is the content of some pages not the same, then? 22:54:27 http://wiki.ovirt.org/wiki/Download vs http://wiki-ovirt.rhcloud.com/Download 22:54:29 quaid, It looks like the wiki on ovirt-wiki has an old back-up 22:55:03 is this 100% consistent? 22:55:19 all I did was what I did before, which we agreed would overwrite the database 22:55:20 quaid, The Download pages are different 22:55:39 The http://wiki-ovirt.rhcloud.com/index.php?title=Home page is lacking the images I uploaded 22:55:57 But Home is definitely newer 22:56:07 dneary, I see the images on the new home page 22:56:58 http://wiki.ovirt.org/wiki/Special:RecentChanges and http://wiki-ovirt.rhcloud.com/Special:RecentChanges, at a glance, seem to match pretty well 22:57:40 ok, I do see some subtle differences on [[Download]] 22:58:55 * jbrooks admires the handsomeness of the site -- garrett did a nice job 22:59:04 Revision history is identical there... 22:59:37 yeah, [[Special:RecentChanges]] is accurate so that much at least worked 23:00:07 Hmm 23:00:36 that's odd 23:00:49 I reckon we'll just need to check, it's possible that if some of the pages existed the drop-table didn't work? 23:02:17 http://wiki-ovirt.rhcloud.com/Special:Log matches up too 23:02:50 quaid, No, that doesn't make sense. "drop table" is "drop table" 23:03:02 quaid, It has to be something on the filesystem 23:03:11 oh interesting 23:04:42 I don't understand why File:Icon-manage.png et al are not getting picked up on /Home 23:05:10 For the main page, you just need to edit the MediaWiki:Mainpage page and set it to "Home" 23:05:43 dneary, I see Icon-manage.png on /Home 23:05:59 the three images from garrett 23:06:20 #info to change main site page, edit [[MediaWiki:Mainpage]] and set it to [[Home]] 23:06:43 jbrooks, Really? I don't 23:06:48 I see the alt text 23:06:55 I see the three images 23:07:11 I see the images on [[Home]] 23:07:26 but I'm logged in ... 23:07:40 I just logged out, and I still see them 23:07:43 and I see them logged out 23:07:44 OK, Ctrl-F5 worked 23:08:15 yay 23:08:16 I don't see how to log back in, though. There used to be a thing for that in the footer 23:08:44 so I think we're going to handle just the ovirt.org redirect 23:08:59 we could do all the redirects ourselves, but then we'd lose the old URL access 23:12:05 quaid, Can I get a copy of the database? I'd like to understand where this page difference is coming from (to be sure that there aren't other pages affected that we're not seeing) 23:12:37 I don't understand what you mean by "just the ovirt.org redirect" 23:13:59 we can't make a CNAME for ovirt.org, so the redirect has to be at the web proxy layer 23:14:13 rather than ask RHT IT to be the proxy, we can do it ourselves on linode01 23:15:53 they're ready to do the DNS switch, btw 23:17:49 dneary: it's 52M compressed 23:18:22 quaid, It's really weird, though 23:18:27 yep 23:19:05 It's like, I moved User:DNeary/Download to Download, and it's just using the old Download (maybe because User:DNeary/Download is gone?) 23:19:16 oh! 23:19:22 that could be, something like that? 23:19:26 is this the only page like that? 23:19:33 But this is all just revisions in the mw_revisions table 23:19:52 That's exactly my question - are there other pages like this? 23:20:09 We should, at the very least, check Develop and Documentation 23:21:10 you know, it shouldn't happen 23:23:31 They look identical 23:23:54 When we set the wiki writable, I have 2-3 TODO tasks before we go live 23:24:04 But nothing major 23:24:16 But I will copy the Download page over 23:24:29 (it's freaking me out though) 23:24:34 jbrooks, Good catch 23:25:32 quaid, Do you have any opposition to me resetting the new wiki r/w? 23:25:37 go ahead 23:25:40 Before the DNS switch gets made? 23:25:42 I'd rather move forward and fix this way 23:25:53 sure, it let's us start tweaking 23:26:00 while still able to easily see the as-was state 23:26:12 dneary: do you want the db now or another time? 23:26:47 Another time 23:27:32 kk 23:30:09 quaid, Did you get a chance to read the [[Community guidelines]]? 23:30:17 quaid, Main page changed to Home 23:30:38 #info Main page has been changed to Home, and Download page has been synced with old wiki 23:30:59 #info removing old TODOs from Documentation page 23:32:13 dneary: no, I'm not familiar with that one - what's the question? 23:34:30 dneary: at the least, the wiki page naming guidelines contradict what is/was in [[Help]] 23:34:38 dneary: I presume these are adapted from somewhere etc.? 23:35:08 ah, there's the adaption 23:35:16 Yes 23:35:27 The page naming guidelines contradict Help? 23:35:27 dneary: I would think we'd want to have these guidelines ratified in some way by the Board and/or all project maintainers? 23:35:41 In what way? 23:35:47 yeah, we shouldn't really be using fakey-nesting e.g. [[Feature/Feature detail]] 23:36:01 we should be using [[Category:Feature]] and [[Feature detail]] 23:36:40 http://wiki-ovirt.rhcloud.com/Help:Wiki_structure 23:37:05 it's some long-standing gardening, to rename a ton of pages 23:37:27 anyway, point more is - guidelines like these should be ratified, maybe mark them as "Proposed" until then? 23:37:36 that will give us a chance to sort out the differences 23:53:23 quaid, That's just documenting practice at this point 23:53:28 Have you seen Feature/? 23:54:14 It really seemed like a big gap not having guidelines - especially with the copy that Garrett proposed. And I don't think there's anything too controversial there? 23:56:18 Removed the potentially controversial "enforcement" section 23:56:44 I'll post a thread asking for feedback on the guidelines next week 23:57:00 quaid, Are we good to go for a DNS change? I think I'm OK. 23:57:33 quaid, Do you want to do an /etc/host check first? mysql GRANTs could be affected, perhaps? 23:58:55 hmm 23:59:11 we can't expect things to act correctly until two conditions are met 23:59:27 * openshift thinks it's www.ovirt.org instead of wiki-ovirt.rhcloud.com 23:59:38 * localsettings thinks the same thing 00:00:17 dneary: no worries, let's just ACK that we need ACK from others before we really start "enforcing", and give us a chance to fix minor discrepencies 00:02:21 quaid, When we change LocalSettings, that will break the wiki until we've configured OpenShift 00:03:13 quaid, It makes sense to do the LocalSettings change first, I think (but I couldn't explain why, beying "it's a hunch" 00:03:32 It's 1am here, and I really want to go to bed... 00:03:37 gotcha 00:03:43 let's do the switch and clean-up from there 00:04:10 So - LocalSettings first? Will I go ahead? 00:04:18 sure 00:04:39 Do you use ovirt.org or www.ovirt.org? 00:05:13 Did you do the resources subdomain? I haven't added the redirects yet 00:06:39 ovirt.org is going to redirect to www.ovirt.org 00:06:42 so say www.ovirt.org 00:08:56 ok, resources.ovirt.org is going to go in with the change 00:08:58 *whew* 00:09:06 thanks for the poke, I forgot to ask SOC to add that 00:11:48 OK - ready to push & restart the gear 00:11:57 Let me know if you need me to wait... 00:11:59 go for it 00:12:07 I'm ready to change the openshift side 00:12:10 working on httpd stuff 00:12:24 Hope I didn't forget a pull in between... 00:12:34 resources.ovirt.org is ready to go 00:12:42 so we can do the redirects 00:12:42 All done 00:12:53 It went with that push 00:13:04 great 00:13:18 did you use resources.ovirt.org for /meeting etc.? 00:13:21 What's the /tl tree? 00:13:25 Yes 00:13:41 the /tl tree is a timeline app that Heiko worked on 00:13:59 it lets you pull in iCal and show on a timeline, basically 00:14:03 actually, other RSS feeds, too 00:14:13 I didn't bother to pull it over because it's not used 00:14:17 the /stats I'm using, though 00:14:44 You don't think the DB user access will be an issue, if we're coming from a different host? 00:15:17 OK, DNS changes pushed 00:16:35 I presume openshift does the db user access magic on the backend? 00:17:06 from the Ops side, the simplification of PaaS is almost mind-bending - you can't be sure what is abstracted, etc. 00:17:49 #info vhost for resources.ovirt.org in place and httpd HUP'd 00:18:07 #info DNS change pushed 00:28:39 #info this is the contents of /etc/httpd/conf.d/ovirt.org.conf : 00:28:41 http://fpaste.org/YR4M/ 00:28:45 does that seem sane? 00:28:51 jbrooks: dneary RobertM ^^^^ 00:29:06 linode01 is A for ovirt.org 00:29:17 so it receives ovirt.org and redirects to www.ovirt.org 00:29:23 which is really wiki-ovirt.rhcloud.com 00:29:44 dneary: HOT DIGGITY 00:29:52 quaid, I can't be sure. Is the RedirectMatch really necessary? 00:29:53 I see it working fine, plain DNS 00:30:08 dneary: I'm not sure if RedirectMatch is the right way, maybe Cond, Rule 00:30:25 quaid, Let's check with ovirt.org and www.ovirt.org 00:30:28 to be sure 00:30:40 And then I'm going to protect all the 1st level pages 00:30:44 And then I'm going to bed 00:30:46 kk 00:30:48 roger that! 00:30:53 and I'll keep doing whatever is left 00:31:00 and you can wake up tomorrow a happier man 00:31:15 dneary: I see login/create account in footer when not logged in 00:31:26 quaid, Let me log out & check 00:31:36 dneary: and it disappears when logged in 00:31:42 that's by design iirc 00:31:54 I see ovirt.org still pointing at linode01.ovirt.org 00:32:03 www.ovirt.org looks fine 00:32:14 But this could all be because of my local DNS caching 00:32:25 caching ruins the world in times of change 00:32:46 right 00:34:04 #info new resources domain is working: 00:34:06 http://resources.ovirt.org/meetings/ 00:34:16 KO - all protected 00:34:19 http://resources.ovirt.org/releases 00:34:22 sweet 00:34:36 quaid, Could you update the bot also for RecentChanges, please? 00:35:00 quaid, Did you go to www.ovirt.org/releases? 00:35:38 dneary: next {lager,stout,vodka} on me, your attention to detail and covering all the facing content and htaccess and everything was super-appreciated 00:35:47 I did, looks good here except for a darn // 00:36:11 Yeah, 00:36:12 looks good guys 00:36:14 spotted it 00:36:23 I've fixed .htaccess 00:36:31 it's fixed now, too, I think 00:36:33 wow 00:36:33 Want me to push & reboot? 00:36:40 yes 00:37:14 Coming... 00:37:31 * quaid sees ovirt.org/releases working, too 00:37:33 Better now? 00:37:44 s 00:37:45 yes 00:37:45 is http://resources.ovirt.org/stats/lists.ovirt.org.conf.txt still meant to be there? 00:38:11 quaid, Unfortunately my attention to detail did not stretch as far as a couple of big details, resulting in a last-minute push from Garrett 00:38:14 heh, wow, what's that from? 00:38:38 dneary: I know, and I felt bad there too - I didn't think about the extensions and testing them, etc. which we could have done 00:38:59 quaid, Might be a good idea to turn off Directory for linode1? 00:39:09 hmm 00:39:17 don't we need that in some cases? 00:39:25 e.g. /meetings it's very useful 00:39:29 we can tweak that 00:39:33 quaid, I must admit it was frustrating not being able to do all I needed to do to get up & running. Adding youtube & RSS etc in the last 3 days has been intense 00:40:19 sgordon_: I must have put that there for someone to look at, that's an old file, I'll ju\st remove it 00:40:24 quaid, We should have had more sync meetings - we weren't all on the same page & aware of what was blocking (or a priority for) others. Lesson for the future. 00:40:31 yep 00:40:50 Anyway, night 00:40:55 Tomorrow, I sleep in 00:41:02 dneary: right, we could have found a way to add and test the extensions, etc. in advance - I completely forgot we had new extensions to consider, I didn't absorb that in my thinking from the new design 00:41:07 good night 00:41:07 yeah, I hear that 00:41:49 last night I had to pull an IV at midnight, then 10 min later my youngest daughter started throwing up for throughout-the-night 00:42:09 I needed that sleep-in this morning, but it sure put me back for this an hour or two 00:42:29 My only fear is that we chose poorly & have given ourselves a security headache now :-) 00:42:56 I'm going to have a look week after next at ConfirmAccounts to see why we're not getting our notifications 00:43:02 dneary: I'm going to tell people the wiki is back up ... soon ... I'll poke arond a bit and be sure DNS is happily propagated by shelling in to some non-redhat.com boxes 00:43:11 cool 00:43:12 oh, you know, sheesh 00:43:17 are we running your code? 00:43:21 I have a bad feeling we aren't 00:43:40 I'll create a ticket right now to look at it, maybe get it fixed before your travel is done :) 00:43:40 not yet 00:43:46 it's not a big patch 00:43:56 And the last revision was not up to scratch 00:44:09 It'll be an excuse to finally get it accepted upstream :) 00:44:24 word 00:44:40 ok, I'll stop talking now so you'll stop replying 01:31:56 quaid, I'm checking out some ovirt links from google 01:32:36 the events link leads to http://www.ovirt.org/News/ when it should lead to http://www.ovirt.org/News 01:33:03 same with community 01:33:19 hmm 01:33:23 meaning, something we can fix? 01:33:28 we need to lose that trailing / 01:33:37 I imagine we can fix it 01:33:38 or we need to make [[News/]] redirect to [[News]]? 01:33:45 that'd work too 01:33:53 I figure 01:33:58 ok, so it's an http redirect, let me look 01:34:10 http://www.ovirt.org/Category:Collateral/ 01:34:37 It seems that whatever redirect we're doing is appending that slash 01:34:39 ewww, I didn't know dneary was doing fakey-nesting all over the place 01:35:12 I wonder if we should be doing a duplicate rule for /foo new/foo & /foo/ /new/foo 01:35:45 let me try a test with /News 01:37:39 every redirect seems to have this: http://www.ovirt.org/2012/08/08/ovirt-3-1-release/ 01:38:07 ah, pushing? 01:38:31 rightes 01:38:32 yes 01:38:35 one sec, sorry 01:38:47 woah 01:39:39 ok, my fix didn't work either 01:39:42 * quaid reverts 01:40:21 https://www.google.com/search?q=ovirt+site:ovirt.org 01:40:47 oh my 01:40:48 All the WP links seem to have slashes appended 01:41:08 And mw is redirecting right, but keeping the slashes 01:41:10 do you have access to the openshift repo? did you send me a pubkey? 01:41:22 I didn't but I can 01:41:33 go ahead, then you can see and fix the .htaccess directly 01:41:40 (if you're game :) ) 01:41:56 Ok, actually, I sent you a key a while back for the ovirt server 01:42:08 you know, I do have that, I can use that, one sec 01:43:00 why is that dated pathway getting redirected to as an article? 01:43:11 oh, that's a wordpress article, yeek! 01:43:37 But it's redirecting right -- I'd made a list of all the links on the wp site 01:43:46 and I think dave hooked up the redirectage 01:44:05 that trailing slash just needs to be trimmed 01:44:52 ic 01:47:46 right, forgot I have to use the webui to add an sshkey 01:47:52 couldn't get the cli to work before 01:48:39 jbrooks: your key is added 01:48:42 ssh://847edb45aea84198838f915be6faa066@wiki-ovirt.rhcloud.com/~/git/wiki.git/ 01:48:52 quaid, thanks, cloning 02:08:18 good nite hat-droids. looks like quite a shift to the Shift. plis keep an eye for nov28th nightly as its the One that seems to work fine. at least for me. all the best. 02:24:30 quaid, ok, it appears that all the wp links actually ended in / 02:24:33 like http://www.ovirt.org/2012/08/08/ovirt-3-1-release/ 02:25:14 dave didn't specify the / in the redirects, though -- I just added the / for that 3.1 release one, and it worked 02:25:52 So I figure I'll do that for all the WP redirects... 02:27:06 Hmm, or add a * to all of them maybe, in case some people have the links w/o the trailing slash 02:37:53 jbrooks: ah, ok 02:38:18 * quaid back from helping with algebra 02:38:42 So what works for both with and w/o the slash is changing Redirect 301 to RedirectMatch 301 and appending .* to the end of the old link 02:39:10 I just did it for one, http://www.ovirt.org/2012/08/08/ovirt-3-1-release/, I can do the rest a bit later, or you can -- my wife's currently yelling at me to get to the table :) 02:39:11 ah, ok 02:39:15 word 02:39:24 I'll pull and fix all of them, I think 03:11:50 pushiing the fix 03:12:12 whoops, merge conflict, fixing 03:20:30 jbrooks: things that used to be /wiki/Foo are coming through as /Wiki/Foo 03:21:02 hmm 03:21:26 like what? 03:22:52 one sec, I am getting inconsistent results in Chromium, probably caching 03:23:29 wiki.ovirt.org/wiki/OVirt_3.1_release_notes 03:23:38 ends up at http://www.ovirt.org/Wiki/OVirt_3.1_release_notes 03:24:59 Ok, and that's not from our last change, right? 03:27:01 sheesh, I dunno, sorry 03:27:20 well, maybe it is ... 03:27:32 * quaid tried to think and thought he'd tested /wiki URL's before 03:27:45 I had to do a merge of .htaccess but I don't think I lost anything 03:28:54 huh, should we have a rule that calls out /wiki 03:31:10 why are the permanent redirects ... _after_ the blocks with [L] 03:33:58 jbrooks: can you diff against HEAD? 03:34:04 I might have lost something 03:34:22 I don't know how to do it 03:34:40 I'm not seeing your commits to .htaccess in 'git log' 03:35:17 git diff php/.htaccess 03:35:48 doesn't show anything 03:35:59 I pulled already 03:36:13 weird 03:36:14 What's the last change you see in git log befre your last 03:36:25 I do see mine in git log 03:36:42 woah, I don't see one for you at all 03:37:48 you can do 'git diff 9d9e11a4d54f4dbe011853aff4e46b290ad0f8fd (your string)' 03:37:57 that is my latest 03:38:13 and my string is one of my changes? 03:39:44 Ok, that works 03:39:56 But the changes are all what I'd expect 03:41:26 quaid, try this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/foo 03:41:50 mw appears to do that automatically 03:42:08 oh., hmm 03:42:29 maybe this has something to do with getting rid of the /wiki 03:45:02 It seems to want to capitalize the first url element after the root of the site 03:45:40 what's the mechanism that gets rid of the /wiki root? 03:54:52 quaid, unless this is being dealt with elsewhere, I don't see why we'd expect the /wiki links to work 03:54:58 There's nothing to redirect them 03:56:42 We need something to strip out any /wiki/[rest of link] elements, replaced with /[rest of link] 03:56:49 it used to work 03:56:56 hmm 03:57:04 Before we made these last changes? 03:57:15 darn, I thought so 03:57:16 We can easily enough roll them back 03:57:30 But I don't see anything in the .htaccess file that'd make them work 03:57:33 well, the fix you suggested worked for everything else 03:57:47 I thought the third stanza caught anything after / and sent it to index.php 03:58:13 but should we have a matching one that catches .... 03:58:15 like this: 03:58:18 so it'd just go to home? 03:58:27 RewriteRule ^(wiki.*)$ %{DOCUMENT_ROOT}/index.php [L] 03:58:28 ? 03:58:32 * quaid doesn't think that is right 03:58:56 no, it's supposed to take it and feed it to index.php which then outputs the [Article name]] 03:58:57 but it's not the wiki. part 03:59:01 it's the /wiki part 03:59:17 or 03:59:29 hmm 04:00:16 RedirectMatch ^/wiki/(.*) %{DOCUMENT_ROOT}/index.php [L] 04:00:17 ? 04:00:53 * quaid puts on the Latryx radio to drown out the rom-com that is driving him nuts 04:01:35 http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL/Apache 04:01:36 jbrooks: I'm confused as to why I'm not seeing your commit in my git log, but ... should one of us test out that idea? 04:01:49 * quaid knows that page well 04:02:12 quaid, maybe you pushed before pulling my changes 04:02:16 yes 04:02:22 but we should test that 04:02:22 I thought I had them, thought I had pulled 04:02:38 in fact, I did have some changes from you, but must have missed a second changeset 04:02:55 ah, that's the RewriteRule I was looking for 04:02:56 all my changes were to that one line 04:03:01 huh 04:03:06 I had that, dunno why I broke 04:03:23 ok, who tries? 04:03:40 RewriteRule ^/?wiki(/.*)?$ %{DOCUMENT_ROOT}/index.php [L] 04:03:46 note the s/\/w// 04:04:05 yeah, I can -- so is this in addition to what's there now? 04:04:10 or instead 04:04:15 addition? 04:04:29 I see the other one is used to redirect / 04:04:56 * quaid thinks he'll see jbrooks changes if jbrooks does the next push that he can pull from 04:05:00 the past changes, I mean 04:05:01 Ok, I'll try it -- put it right after the one that's there now? 04:05:13 problem is 04:05:28 that rule there is not for / 04:05:32 it's for everything and it should work 04:05:36 and it has [L] 04:05:50 * quaid parsing the regexp incorrectly possibly? 04:06:38 maybe another redirectmatch 04:07:05 RedirectMatch 301 ^/wiki/(.*)$ /$1 04:07:20 actually yea 04:07:28 I'm trying it 04:07:38 because the first one does catch things coming in with /wiki not there 04:07:53 but it's the one sending "wiki/Foo" to the MW engine 04:08:00 (which makes Wiki/Foo) 04:08:13 I think the rule might need to be before, we'll see 04:10:02 quaid, appears to work... 04:10:28 seems to work here too 04:10:28 nice 04:10:29 www.ovirt.org/wiki/Quantum_and_oVirt 04:10:41 high five dude 04:10:46 * quaid ^5s jbrooks 04:11:02 yea, I forgot that syntax :) 04:11:08 got it from lh 04:11:31 * quaid sees a missing ASL logo 04:11:35 yep 04:11:41 That was missing on the old site, too 04:11:55 we need to populate the About page, that content isn't there 04:13:40 I suppose I should setup oldwiki and oldwww on reousrces.o.org 04:16:28 quaid, can you access ovirt.org right now? 04:19:14 via ssh? 04:19:20 yes, linode01.ovirt.org works 04:19:22 I'm already shelled in 04:20:10 No, the wiki -- it's not responding for me right now 04:20:58 it's really slow 04:21:19 huh 04:21:28 the new wiki? 04:21:42 * quaid pokes 04:22:12 probably something across OpenShift - I see stuff, but it's a bit wonky in response 04:24:35 yeah, same here 04:30:18 quaid, aight, I sent a msg to Dave telling him about the changes 04:30:36 I'm going to go play video games or something ;) 04:35:26 good 04:35:35 I'll send updating emails and stuff 04:35:42 and work on oldwiki and oldwww 04:42:21 ooh, this is going to be a challenge 04:42:31 wordpress doesn't like to respond outside of it's favorite fqdn 06:21:09 I just realized, ovirtbot relies upon running on the same host as the wiki 07:50:37 #endmeeting