15:01:28 <quaid> #startmeeting oVirt Infra Weekly 15:01:28 <ovirtbot> Meeting started Mon Oct 29 15:01:28 2012 UTC. The chair is quaid. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:01:28 <ovirtbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 15:01:38 <quaid> #chair dneary 15:01:38 <ovirtbot> Current chairs: dneary quaid 15:01:54 <quaid> #topic roll & agenda 15:02:14 * quaid is walking to the coffee shopp 15:02:36 * dneary raises hand 15:05:13 <quaid> heh 15:05:21 <quaid> we had a quiet one lasg week, too 15:08:06 <dneary> hi acathrow 15:08:28 <dneary> We were looking for you earlier with mgoldboi re USB key workshop next week 15:10:12 <dneary> quaid, The main topic for me (and it's completely OK if we take this offline for me) is to figure out how the new hardware purchase might affect what we ask of Alter Way 15:10:46 * eedri_ here 15:10:56 <dneary> hi eedri_ 15:11:10 <eedri_> hello... sorry the late arrival :) 15:11:21 * quaid is here again 15:11:56 <quaid> * MediaWiki & www 15:11:56 <quaid> * Hosting 15:11:56 <quaid> * Trac review 15:11:56 <quaid> * Puppet 15:11:56 <quaid> * Jenkins 15:11:58 <quaid> * Gerrit 15:12:01 <quaid> * Other business? 15:12:03 <quaid> http://wiki.ovirt.org/wiki/Infrastructure_team_meetings 15:12:16 <quaid> dneary: yep, we'll be there in 45 seconds 15:12:23 <quaid> because I don't have much to say on the first topic 15:12:29 <quaid> #topic Mediawiki & www 15:12:34 <quaid> #info garrett is ready for me 15:12:38 * sgordon is here 15:12:45 <quaid> #info I'm not quite ready for garrett 15:13:00 <dneary> quaid, Anything I can do to help re MediaWiki? 15:13:21 <quaid> #info ran in to confusion over the weekend with the upgrade, needed to wait until today when I can talk with the EPEL packager 15:13:52 <quaid> dneary: thanks, I think I can sort it out, it just keeps taking longer (the session to upgrade) than the time I have for it, and it exapands, and it's been not straightforward 15:14:28 <dneary> quaid, fyi, I'm almost ready for you too 15:14:43 <dneary> I need the newer mediawiki to ask for some new extensions 15:15:08 <quaid> #action quaid still owning upgrade 15:15:21 <quaid> #info quaid looking forward to OpenShift owning the platform upgrades 15:15:26 <quaid> #topic Hosting 15:15:32 <quaid> I sent out a big round-up email last week 15:16:01 <quaid> http://lists.ovirt.org/pipermail/infra/2012-October/001254.html 15:16:24 <quaid> what are the open questions from that? 15:16:36 <dneary> re Alter Way, there is one thing (hosting agreement) blocking on me 15:17:18 <quaid> yeah, I think I touched on the process in that email 15:17:27 <dneary> Alter Way have sent their standard hosting agreement, I need to get it signed by Red Hat (the easiest way would probably to get it signed by Red Hat France, which means explaining the situation in Paris, not a big deal, but slow) 15:17:27 <quaid> did that part work? make sense? 15:18:18 <dneary> I see that Stéphane has not yet replied to your email, so let me confirm with him that he's on infra@ and is dealing directly with you for any network & access requirements 15:19:20 <quaid> ok, I'd like to see the agreement, too 15:19:33 <quaid> is it in French? English version? 15:19:47 <dneary> It's in French 15:19:54 <dneary> Happy to forward it on to you 15:20:16 <quaid> thx 15:20:35 <quaid> Paris sounds like the ticket 15:21:22 <quaid> any other questions about those 3 hosting initiatives? 15:21:41 <quaid> I see them as very complementary, and providing a fair range of coverage 15:23:08 <ovirtbot> 14[[07Infrastructure team meetings14]]4 !10 02http://wiki.ovirt.org/w/index.php?diff=5005&oldid=4845&rcid=5125 5* 03Quaid 5* (+118) 10today's agenda 15:27:24 * ewoud here as well btw 15:27:48 <dneary> Sounds like that's a seal of approval. 15:27:55 <ewoud> nasty summer => winter time 15:27:59 <dneary> #topic Trac review 15:28:06 <quaid> thx 15:28:14 <dneary> quaid, Hope you don't mind that I took the liberty 15:28:19 <quaid> not at all :) 15:28:36 <quaid> https://fedorahosted.org/ovirt/report 15:29:12 <quaid> https://fedorahosted.org/ovirt/report/1 15:29:19 <quaid> you know what is missing? 15:29:39 <quaid> dneary: can you file a new ticket to request the rename of arch@ to devel@ (iirc that was the final, but maybe you remember better) 15:29:59 <quaid> and I'll get that one after the MediaWiki (and before we move Mailman) 15:30:17 <quaid> #action dneary to file a new ticket requesting the rename of arch@ to devel@ 15:30:31 <quaid> the consent of silence :) 15:30:41 <ewoud> I have a ticket open to write the how to write tickets ticket 15:30:55 <quaid> heh, yep 15:30:55 <dneary> quaid, Yes 15:30:57 <ewoud> but what do we need and how much is self explanatory? 15:31:07 <dneary> I'll open a ticket if it's useful 15:31:38 <quaid> #info how-to write ticket doc could point to existing Fedorahosted.org how-to content on Fedora Wiki - getting an account, etc. 15:31:47 <quaid> #info how-to can also point to Trac docs for more details 15:32:05 <ewoud> good idea 15:32:08 <quaid> #idea how-to could be as straight-forward as five steps 15:32:21 <dneary> Hmmm 15:32:27 <dneary> What account do I use? 15:32:34 <quaid> #info mainly (I think) we want to explain how to use the special fields we set - milestone, priority, component (especially) 15:32:36 <ewoud> fedora account system 15:32:44 <quaid> dneary: Fedora Account (FAS) 15:32:57 <ewoud> I think #8 can be closed now (the github mirror) 15:32:59 <dneary> quaid, I hope they have username/password reminders 15:33:07 <quaid> Step 1: If you don't have a Fedora account user, obtain one :) 15:33:08 <quaid> dneary: yes 15:33:27 <quaid> ewoud: I haven't seen my email this morning, did someone reply to my request to check the work? 15:33:37 <ewoud> quaid: I think I've seen it 15:33:43 <ewoud> will reply that it looks good 15:34:07 <quaid> ok, thx 15:34:09 <dneary> hehe 15:34:21 <dneary> "Security question: What is your password?" 15:34:29 * dneary hates security questions 15:34:31 <quaid> ha! 15:34:36 <quaid> sounds like you set yourself 15:34:50 <quaid> ok, I think that's all for now, the other open tickets have their own agenda topic 15:35:04 <quaid> #topic Puppet & Foreman 15:35:11 <quaid> https://fedorahosted.org/ovirt/ticket/6 15:35:26 <quaid> the goal is to setup the new hosts using Puppet 15:35:49 <quaid> based on nothing but a wild guess, I think it's going to be a few weeks until we need Puppet to be able to do that 15:36:07 <quaid> #info about 2 weeks or more until we need Puppet to manage new incoming hosts 15:36:39 <quaid> #idea setup initial Puppet master on linode01, then move to one of the other hosting VMs when setup by having Puppet replicate itself 15:37:07 <quaid> ewoud: what do we need to do in preparation? 15:37:08 <ewoud> 1 what are the specs of linode01 and can it run puppet+foreman? 15:37:22 <quaid> heh, probably not as-is 15:37:37 <dneary> quaid, I did 15:37:39 <quaid> it has 768 MB RAM 15:38:11 <quaid> dneary: I did that recently, I got back my own question, "What are you registering for?" and now have to guess what the heck I was thinking 15:38:12 <ewoud> I have a server where I'll build a PoC VM 15:38:35 <quaid> ok, is it exposed publicly? would you prefer to make it the master for now? 15:38:49 <ewoud> I can expose it publicly 15:39:26 <ewoud> I'd prefer deciding the final situation later 15:39:31 <quaid> ok 15:39:36 <ewoud> first build a PoC, then see what everyone thinks 15:39:57 <quaid> ok 15:40:06 <quaid> is there any homework the email list can be doing? 15:40:16 <quaid> i.e. talking about package manifests, firewall settings, etc.? 15:40:37 <ewoud> giving my experience and the rest here I think I'll base it on CentOS 15:40:44 <quaid> +1 15:41:10 <ewoud> sec, I'll copy some links from our wiki 15:41:26 <ewoud> #link http://docs.puppetlabs.com/learning/ 15:41:30 * quaid approves not just because he's a fan of the technology but because it makes sense based on Infra team makeup - when we get sysadmins with experience in other distros, we can figure how to expand there later 15:41:42 <dneary> quaid, mailman is very slow today (archives links) 15:42:05 <ewoud> #link http://docs.puppetlabs.com/puppet/2.7/reference/lang_visual_index.html 15:42:13 <ewoud> #link http://docs.puppetlabs.com/puppet/2.7/reference/modules_fundamentals.html 15:42:29 <ewoud> #link http://docs.puppetlabs.com/guides/language_guide.html 15:42:35 <ewoud> #link http://docs.puppetlabs.com/references/2.6.17/type.html 15:42:44 <ewoud> I think that should be enough pointers on documentation for now :) 15:42:58 <quaid> great :) 15:43:06 <ewoud> first should be your starting point :) 15:44:17 <quaid> #action Interested Infra team should read related documemtation 15:46:25 <quaid> ok, anything more here? 15:47:46 <quaid> #topic Jenkins 15:48:09 <quaid> I haven't seen RobertM chime in this morning, are you about? 15:48:52 <quaid> #info move of Jenkins Master is dependent on closing hosting arrangements with Alter Way 15:48:59 <RobertM> quaid, I am although Hurricane Sandy is keeping me busy. 15:49:17 <quaid> RobertM: word brother, keep your head down 15:49:48 <quaid> #idea upcoming "excess" VMs can be used for Jenkins slaves, we can start considering how to expand here 15:49:54 <RobertM> I personally have a genny so I will be fine more worried about some of my sites that don't 15:50:13 <quaid> RobertM: did you see the email last week rounding up the 3 hosting initiatives underway 15:51:11 <RobertM> quaid, Sorry my company is in it silly session we do a lot of stuff with elections so I have been putting in 70 / 80 hour work weeks and zero free time. 15:52:32 <quaid> RobertM: no worries, that will be over sometime 15:52:37 <quaid> thanks for the heads up 15:53:00 <quaid> RobertM: about the time we have a closed election will be when we're ready to move Jenkins around, so maybe the timing will be perfect 15:53:30 <quaid> ok, moving on 15:53:34 <quaid> #topic Gerrit 15:53:43 <quaid> anything here? 15:53:52 <quaid> #info git repos are now mirrored on github.com 15:54:09 <quaid> https://github.com/ovirt 15:56:00 * ewoud sent a reply about renaming https://github.com/oVirt/Node to ovirt-node 15:56:14 <ewoud> since Node already has forks, but should be named ovirt-node 15:56:32 <quaid> good, thanks 15:56:54 * quaid closing the ticket 15:57:19 <quaid> ok, moving on ... 15:57:34 <quaid> #topic Any other business in last few minutes? 15:59:53 * ewoud is good 16:01:42 <dneary> quaid, FYI, that ticket is open now 16:01:51 <dneary> I'm also about to open a second re Mailman speed 16:02:08 <dneary> I don't know why, but clicking an archives link takes ~1 minute to render the page 16:03:21 <quaid> hmm, probably Linode being busy 16:03:30 <quaid> ok, closing the meeting ... 16:03:39 <quaid> #endmeeting