14:01:39 <mburns> #startmeeting ovirt weekly meeting 14:01:39 <ovirtbot> Meeting started Wed Aug 15 14:01:39 2012 UTC. The chair is mburns. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:01:39 <ovirtbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 14:01:52 * RobertM here 14:01:55 * lh is here 14:01:56 <mburns> #topic agenda and roll call 14:02:04 * dustins here 14:02:14 <mburns> Status of Next Release 14:02:14 <mburns> Sub-project reports (engine, vdsm, node, infra) 14:02:15 <mburns> Upcoming workshops 14:02:15 <mburns> Backup for Release Manager 14:02:32 * quaid is lurking, distracted 14:02:36 * garrett_ is here 14:02:57 * dougsland here 14:04:37 <mburns> #topic Release status 14:04:43 <mburns> #info 3.1 is released 14:04:46 * eedri here partially 14:04:51 <mburns> #info time to start planning for 3.2 release 14:06:39 <mburns> according to the wiki, we should be discussing release criteria for the 3.2 release 14:06:45 <mburns> #link http://wiki.ovirt.org/wiki/Release_Process 14:07:32 <mburns> i think for this meeting, i'll simply say: think about release criteria and we can discuss next week 14:08:03 <mburns> i'll send out a mail asking for release criteria input before the next meeting 14:10:05 <mburns> any objections to having that discussion next week? 14:10:27 <RobertM> mburns, +1 14:11:09 <mburns> #action mburns to send out mail on release criteria for 3.2 14:11:22 <mburns> #info responses to be discussed on next week's meeting 14:11:43 <mburns> #topic Sub-Project reports -- node 14:11:48 <mburns> #info nothing new to report 14:12:05 <mburns> #info waiting on new kernel for a new ovirt-node iso build 14:12:33 <mburns> #topic Sub-Project reports -- vdsm 14:12:42 <mburns> dougsland: anything new to report on vdsm? 14:13:06 <dougsland> mburns, afaik, nothing new as well 14:13:26 <mburns> #info nothing new for vdsm 14:13:32 <mburns> #topic Sub-Project reports -- engine 14:13:45 <mburns> doron: anything new on the engine front? 14:14:27 <doron> mburns: sorry, was otp 14:15:13 <mburns> doron: anything new for engine? issues that came up in 3.1 release that need fixing? etc... 14:16:00 <doron> mburns: Not that I'm aware of, but I'd like to verify before making this final. 14:16:08 <mburns> doron: ok 14:16:16 <mburns> #info nothing new to report 14:16:34 <mburns> doron: let me know if there is something we should be aware of 14:16:41 <mburns> #topic Sub-Project reports -- infra 14:16:45 <doron> mburns: very well. 14:16:46 <mburns> RobertM: quaid: ? 14:17:55 <RobertM> Infra enabled per patch review of the engine over the weekend. 14:18:15 <mburns> #info per patch review of engine patches enabled 14:18:15 <RobertM> That means all the major projects have per patch coverage. 14:18:52 <mburns> #info all major projects are now building with each patch submission 14:19:06 <eedri> i have a query about make rpm that related to infra 14:20:01 <eedri> in order to allow nighly builds, we need to enable 'make rpm' in all projects to create rpm names with the git sha included 14:20:13 <mburns> eedri: yes, we do 14:20:14 <eedri> it is done for some projects (vdsm/ovirt-node) but not all of them 14:20:31 <mburns> eedri: can you get a list of the projects that are not doing this? 14:20:40 <eedri> ovirt-engine for starts 14:20:45 <mburns> we'll ping the maintainers directly (or we can submit patches) 14:21:02 <eedri> ovirt-cli/ovirt-sdk 14:21:23 <mburns> eedri: should be a simple process 14:21:41 <eedri> mburns, patch to the makefile i assume 14:22:45 <mburns> eedri: might be able to do it with just a spec file change 14:23:04 <mburns> and then a tweak of the build scripts in jenkins 14:23:07 <mburns> but i'd need to look 14:25:03 <mburns> eedri: probably a small Makefile change as well actually 14:25:26 <mburns> eedri: i'll take a look at engine and cli/sdk 14:25:33 <eedri> mburns, thanks 14:25:35 <mburns> probably simple to fix in both cases 14:26:05 <mburns> #action mburns to look at engine and cli/sdk for building with some hash (git, date) in jenkins 14:26:21 <mburns> #topic upcoming workshops 14:26:26 <mburns> lh: you're up 14:26:45 <lh> mburns, thanks 14:27:16 <lh> We're doing wonderfully with registration at the upcoming workshop at LinuxCon North America. If I remember correctly we're at ~90 attendees. 14:27:30 <lh> Finishing touches needed: assign speakers to sessions, finalize AV, that sort of thing. 14:27:42 <lh> http://wiki.ovirt.org/wiki/OVirt_Global_Workshops 14:28:10 <lh> Attendees can still register free of charge using the link here http://wiki.ovirt.org/wiki/OVirt_Global_Workshops#LinuxCon_North_America_2012 14:28:14 <mburns> #info LC NA is at ~90 out of 100 attendees 14:28:26 <mburns> #link http://wiki.ovirt.org/wiki/OVirt_Global_Workshops 14:28:37 <lh> The oVirt portion of the KVM Forum + oVirt workshop CFP just opened 14:28:57 <lh> Relevant details were sent to the mailing lists, but I will also update the global workshops wiki page with the data 14:28:58 <mburns> #info still finalizing speakers for each session, AV, etc... 14:29:20 <mburns> #info CFP for oVirt Workshop in Barcelona just opened 14:29:29 <lh> You can also find the CFP details at https://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/kvm-forum/cfp-ovirt 14:29:40 <mburns> #info wiki and mailing lists have additional data 14:29:46 <mburns> #link https://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/kvm-forum/cfp-ovirt 14:30:00 <lh> Please share the CFP widely. I'll be asking the OVA to help us market the CFP, as well as asking Board Member companies to help. 14:30:06 <mburns> lh: are there details on how many slots we have? 14:30:08 <lh> We still need a reviewer or two for the papers committee. 14:30:48 <mburns> #info OVA will be helping with marketing the CFP, looking for board member companies to help as well 14:30:57 <lh> mburns, at this time, I am not certain. I believe Chris Wright, one of the KVM Forum organizers, and a few other folks are wrangling that to determine what sessions should be for attendees of both streams and that will help to determine how many ovirt specific slots there are 14:30:59 <mburns> #info still need a couple reviewers for CFP 14:31:09 <mburns> lh: ok 14:31:25 <lh> and last but not least, we have the Bangalore workshop on October 16 and we are still asking for folks to let us know if they'd like to present there. 14:31:46 <lh> mburns, that's all i have unless anyone has questions 14:31:55 <mburns> #info Bangalore workshop is October 16 -- still looking for people to present there 14:32:04 <mburns> lh: ok, thanks 14:32:21 <mburns> lh: i can help with paper reviews if needed 14:32:33 <mburns> for Barcelona 14:32:54 <mburns> unless you have a red hat heavy presence already... 14:32:56 <lh> mburns, excellent, thanks. we can get you added to the reviewers email list and other resources. the CFP review process goes through the Linux Foundation's CFP tool 14:33:05 <mburns> lh, ok 14:33:09 <lh> mburns, so far we have Itamar Heim, Jon Benedict, Kyle Mestery 14:33:25 <mburns> ok, so 3 different companies so far 14:33:27 <lh> mburns, I am sure you would be welcome, but I am hoping more Board Companies volunteer a reviewer 14:33:38 <lh> mburns, correct, Cisco, NetApp and Red Hat 14:33:54 * mburns thinks aliguori (or someone he delegates) should be on that as well... 14:34:22 * mburns whistles innocently for volunteering someone... 14:35:16 <mburns> #info currently have 3 reviewers -- jb_netapp itamar kmestery 14:35:30 <mburns> ok, moving on 14:35:37 <mburns> #topic backup release manager 14:35:50 <mburns> #info Ofer is on long term vacation (~ 2 months) 14:36:03 <mburns> need someone to fill his role during that time frame 14:36:12 <mburns> no volunteers (that I saw) on the email list 14:36:30 <mburns> any nominees? volunteers? 14:36:56 <mburns> otherwise, it looks like it's me and RobertM doing the job... 14:37:04 <mburns> but part time at best... 14:37:55 * mburns guesses no one is interested... 14:38:18 <RobertM> mburns, It might be no one is sure what the job entails. 14:38:27 <mburns> RobertM: true 14:38:31 <mburns> even i don't know completely 14:38:44 <mburns> mostly, it should be making sure that we're following the release process 14:39:14 <mburns> organizing the sub-project maintainers in posting builds, etc... 14:39:25 <mburns> maintaining release criteria 14:39:49 <mburns> things like that 14:40:37 <mburns> i don't see the responsibilities wiki page yet.. 14:41:21 <mburns> #info no real interest apparently 14:41:33 <mburns> #info mburns and RobertM will make best effort... 14:41:40 <quaid> I wonder if this is the sort of thing that a sponsoring organization might want to pursue as a way to get someone up to speed on $everything 14:41:49 <quaid> it's as much about organization as anything, right? 14:42:47 <mburns> quaid: i think so 14:42:54 <mburns> though Ofer did more than that, i think 14:42:55 <RobertM> oschreib Are you going to have a change to write the wiki page this week? 14:43:08 <aliguori> mburns, we'll (IBM) volunteer someone, i'll get back to you in a little bit as to who 14:43:19 <mburns> he did builds as well... 14:43:20 * quaid looks around for itamar 14:43:23 <mburns> aliguori: thanks! 14:43:47 <mburns> quaid: RobertM and i can cover short term while we try to get additional people 14:44:33 <mburns> ok, moving on 14:44:40 <RobertM> mburns, We both with be at the event on the 28th why don't we review the process then. 14:44:49 <mburns> RobertM: sure 14:44:59 <mburns> #topic site re-design 14:45:07 <mburns> late topic -- garrett_ you're on 14:45:14 <garrett_> hi everyone! 14:45:29 <garrett_> I've been lurking around a little bit, and introduced myself to the lists just a bit ago 14:45:43 <garrett_> and I'm currently working on some designs for the oVirt website 14:45:53 <garrett_> I wanted to have something to show, to ask for feedback 14:45:53 <mburns> #link http://people.redhat.com/glesage/oVirt/website/mockup-1/ 14:46:27 <garrett_> I've also worked with Dave Neary with the sitemap, and came up with a proposed one based on his suggestion 14:46:31 <garrett_> #link http://people.redhat.com/glesage/oVirt/website/ovirt-sitemap.txt 14:47:12 <garrett_> I integrated the green used from the current oVirt.org website 14:47:16 <garrett_> for a highlight color 14:47:22 <garrett_> and slightly tweaked the logo 14:47:53 <garrett_> and am trying to make something that looks elegant and professional, yet still community-based 14:48:28 <garrett_> the target audience is sysadmins and programmers, so there's a bit more information still on the front page 14:48:50 <mburns> garrett_: we certainly need board ack before making any changes like this 14:48:51 <garrett_> anyway, I put a lot of thought into it and would like to hear back impressions 14:49:00 <garrett_> I'll send it to the list for more feedback 14:49:01 <mburns> especially with the logo change 14:49:18 <garrett_> it's a minor change; I basically made the "o" a little more round 14:49:39 <mburns> and color change ;-) 14:49:39 <garrett_> okay, I'll send it to board@ first, as you suggest 14:49:52 <garrett_> well, the color is already used on the current website (: 14:49:57 <garrett_> but yes, for the logo 14:50:01 <mburns> garrett_: personally, i like the layout you're proposing 14:50:08 <garrett_> thanks! 14:50:19 <ewoud> +1 on better layout 14:50:36 <mburns> changing logo and color scheme though -- there's other stuff to consider there 14:50:39 <garrett_> this is just the first draft to send off; I want to work with you all to iterate and make it what you want 14:50:42 <ewoud> I'm wondering if it would be useful to have a mailing list for this 14:50:58 <mburns> ewoud: arch@ or infra@ 14:51:06 <mburns> with cc to board@ 14:51:11 <cctrieloff> I think it is a huge improvement, just looked at it 14:51:12 * lh has often wondered if there should be a marketing@ovirt list for folks who wanted to work on marketing tasks, maybe we are not there yet..... 14:51:31 <RobertM> mburns, I would think infra would be a better choice since arch is more about the code. 14:51:39 <garrett_> I'm also proposing a lot of text changes. It's mostly based on what's there, but cleaned up a little. 14:51:40 <mburns> lh: send a request to infra@ 14:51:41 <ewoud> mburns: I also mean more in-depth details 14:51:42 <quaid> garrett_: btw, we started doing some of the wiki tweaks last week, such as fixing up the sidebar - if you get a nice sitemap for the wiki, let me know 14:51:51 <lh> mburns, shall do 14:51:52 <garrett_> quaid, excellent! 14:52:06 <ewoud> quaid: I think we should also upgrade to a newer mediawiki 14:52:13 <mburns> #info new site design -- looking for feedback 14:52:14 <quaid> +1 14:52:30 <mburns> #action garrett_ to send to infra@ and board@ looking for feedback 14:52:39 <quaid> ewoud: we can schedule that this week via infra@ I guess, but we might want to talk about RPM v. ZIP :) 14:52:54 <ewoud> quaid: I'll add it to the agenda 14:53:26 <quaid> garrett_: ok, that's a very clean look that I think will appeal to the target audience; I like the layout; the page is muy inviting, and matches up with current expectations for what a FOSS project site should have 14:53:51 <lh> quaid, +1 14:53:56 <quaid> garrett_: btw, still working on the activity stuff with Heiko, something we can chat about with him 14:54:16 <garrett_> okay 14:54:19 <ovirtbot> 14[[07Infrastructure team meetings14]]4 !10 02http://wiki.ovirt.org/w/index.php?diff=4229&oldid=4227&rcid=4330 5* 03Ekohl 5* (+74) 10start 2012-08-21 agenda 14:54:26 <mburns> #info general agreement with people on meeting on the new layout being better 14:54:46 <mburns> #info need acks from board on logo and color scheme changes 14:55:14 <mburns> #info need acks on wording as well 14:55:29 <mburns> ok, anything else to discuss with the site design? 14:55:38 <ovirtbot> 14[[07Features/Design/Network/NetworkFiltering14]]4 !10 02http://wiki.ovirt.org/w/index.php?diff=4230&oldid=4228&rcid=4331 5* 03Moti 5* (+259) 10/* VDSM */ 14:55:48 <mburns> #topics other topics 14:55:53 <mburns> #topic other topics 14:56:01 <mburns> anything else to discuss? 14:56:09 <mburns> otherwise, /me will end in 1 minute 14:57:10 <mburns> going once... 14:57:28 * RobertM lets end the meeting 14:57:32 <mburns> going twice.. 14:57:41 <mburns> gone 14:57:45 <mburns> thanks all! 14:57:48 <mburns> #endmeeting