15:02:11 <quaid> #startmeeting 15:02:11 <ovirtbot> Meeting started Wed Feb 29 15:02:11 2012 UTC. The chair is quaid. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:02:11 <ovirtbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 15:02:32 <quaid> #meetingname oVirt weekly meeting 15:02:32 <ovirtbot> The meeting name has been set to 'ovirt_weekly_meeting' 15:02:56 <quaid> #topic Hello & kick the chair around for not getting an agenda out 15:02:56 * ichristo is here 15:02:57 <ovirtbot> 14[[07CLI14]]4 !10 02http://www.ovirt.org/w/index.php?diff=2562&oldid=2561&rcid=2640 5* 03Michael Pasternak 5* (+140) 10 15:03:09 * mburns in 15:03:14 * mgoldboi here 15:03:35 * oschreib here 15:03:52 * mestery here 15:04:12 * sgordon here 15:04:15 * pmyers here 15:04:31 * quaid heres himself 15:04:37 * jb_netapp here 15:04:49 * aglitke here 15:04:51 * ichristo is still here 15:05:31 <quaid> #topic Agenda discussion 15:05:37 <quaid> so what I had for today is: 15:05:41 <quaid> * Status of release criteria discussion 15:05:41 <quaid> * Beijing workshop status 15:05:43 <quaid> * AOB 15:05:55 <quaid> any suggestions for today? 15:06:24 <quaid> and also ... for the future, what is a good way for us to proceed around gathering agenda items for this meeting 15:07:49 <mburns> send request for topics the day before? 15:07:59 <quaid> or maybe two days before? 15:08:06 <mburns> sure 15:08:15 <quaid> I definitely think I'm leaving it too long :) 15:08:45 <quaid> how about this ... 15:09:12 <quaid> would it be worth having each sub-project provide a quick status - what is going on, what are blockers, what help needed? 15:09:21 <quaid> (starting next week, I mean) 15:09:44 <pmyers> quaid: that sounds reasonable, but maybe that should be via email prior to the meeting with only doing highlights during the meeting 15:09:49 <pmyers> otherwise could eat up a lot of time 15:10:51 <mgoldboi> quaid: i can summarize bug statistics and burning issues 15:11:05 <ovirtbot> 14[[07CLI14]]4 !10 02http://www.ovirt.org/w/index.php?diff=2563&oldid=2562&rcid=2641 5* 03Michael Pasternak 5* (-19) 10 15:11:40 <quaid> pmyers: sure, then use meeting for anything special 15:11:56 <pmyers> yep 15:12:02 <mburns> +1 15:12:16 <quaid> mgoldboi: same as above, maybe to arch@ the day before, give people time to read and reflect 15:12:29 <mgoldboi> quaid: sure 15:12:36 <pmyers> quaid: all of the status emails should be sent as replies to the call for agenda item email 15:12:43 <pmyers> that way it's easy to find stuff all on the same thread 15:12:53 <quaid> nice! 15:13:03 <quaid> ok, so I'll take this: 15:13:35 <quaid> #action quaid or any other meeting organizer to send out agenda 24 hours in advance of meeting, which spurs status reports 15:14:07 <quaid> good, thanks, I've been feeling we're missing opportunities here, this should help 15:14:15 <mburns> quaid: i'd make it by EOD Monday 15:14:44 <quaid> I can try that :) 15:15:03 <quaid> #info Better target is EOD Monday for agenda email 15:15:54 <quaid> #agreed Monday EOD & no later than Tue morning, meeting organizer sends out agenda to trigger status emails from sub-projects and bug status 15:16:31 <quaid> ok, seeing no other agenda items for today, let's proceed, and use any remaining time at the end to bring up any of those status items that occur to any of you for today 15:16:49 <quaid> #topic Status on release process (follow-up) 15:17:15 <quaid> so things looked good last week, do we feel we have something to use for next time? 15:17:34 <oschreib> I've updated www.ovirt.org/wiki/Second_Release 15:18:06 <oschreib> #link www.ovirt.org/wiki/Second_Release 15:18:17 <oschreib> according to last week sync meeting 15:18:28 <oschreib> but we need much more data there.... 15:19:51 <oschreib> any ideas on how to get more data? 15:21:50 <mgoldboi> oschreib: dev leads and qe leads should define p1 feature that should be release blockers 15:21:50 <oschreib> I'll send a new email to the arch list 15:22:09 <mgoldboi> oschreib: for each component 15:25:23 <oschreib> mgoldboi: ok 15:25:30 <oschreib> anything more? 15:26:04 <quaid> do we have deadlines for those features/blockers 15:27:18 <oschreib> ? 15:27:41 <quaid> sorry 15:27:52 <quaid> I mean, do we have a deadline for leads to provide the features that are release blockers? 15:28:11 <oschreib> mgoldboi just raised that as an option 15:28:23 <oschreib> I hope everything to be clear until next week. 15:29:52 <mgoldboi> it's has been a busy week on the upstream code - some basic flows had been broken and now fixed - i hope we'll be more stable next week 15:30:05 <ovirtbot> 14[[07Second Release14]]4 !10 02http://www.ovirt.org/w/index.php?diff=2564&oldid=2538&rcid=2642 5* 03Oschreib 5* (+80) 10/* MUST */ 15:31:20 <quaid> oschreib: meaning, next week we'll set the features-that-are-blockers deadline? 15:31:45 <oschreib> quaid: indeed 15:31:53 <mgoldboi> i'll provide the statistics - some else needs to provide deadlines 15:32:13 <oschreib> wait, deadline? 15:32:21 <oschreib> deadline is the next release.... 15:33:24 <mgoldboi> ok 15:34:34 <quaid> deadline to get the list of features-that-are-blockers 15:34:55 <oschreib> that's next week :) 15:36:24 <oschreib> anything else? 15:37:14 <quaid> #info deadline to get in features-that-are-blockers is 7 March 15:38:25 <quaid> ok, if there is nothing else ... 15:38:42 <quaid> #topic Beijing workshop update 15:39:12 <quaid> #info RSVPs have slowed down, jbrooks and I are working on getting them moving again 15:39:33 <quaid> #info Some information about where the venue is - for booking hotels - is now on the workshop email list 15:40:38 <quaid> if anyone out there is interested in how to organize open source workshops, I would love to show how that works (as well as get some help doing the supporting wiki pages, etc.) 15:41:05 <quaid> otherwise ... 15:41:10 * quaid moves on 15:41:30 <quaid> #topic Any other sub-projects have anything to bring up today? 15:42:43 <quaid> I'll give that another minute, then move to Any Other Business (AOB) before closing 15:44:42 <quaid> #topic Anything else for today? 15:44:54 <quaid> I've got a quick one: 15:45:10 <quaid> we've captured back #ovirt on Freenode now - it should stop kicking people out when they join 15:45:27 <quaid> for now I'll just configure it to be an alternative channel, with this one as primary 15:45:36 <pmyers> as an aside, I'm in favor of moving the channel altogether so that we can all hang on freenode 15:45:40 <pmyers> and ditch oftc :) 15:45:42 <quaid> if any of you want to move (back) to Freenod permanently ... 15:45:44 <quaid> heh 15:45:50 <quaid> then it's probably a topic for arch@ 15:45:54 <pmyers> yep 15:46:34 <quaid> anything else out there? 15:48:30 <quaid> ok, moving to close in 5 secs :) 15:48:39 <quaid> #endmeeting