15:03:23 #startmeeting oVirt Weekly Sync 15:03:23 Meeting started Wed Jan 7 15:03:23 2015 UTC. The chair is bkp. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:03:23 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 15:03:35 #topic Agenda and Roll Call 15:03:35 #info infra update 15:03:35 #info 3.5.z updates 15:03:35 #info 3.6.0 status 15:03:35 #info conferences and workshops 15:03:38 #info other topics 15:03:46 * lvernia is here. 15:03:49 * amureini is here 15:04:00 Hello, lvernia and amureini 15:04:05 Hello hello! 15:04:28 and i thought it was cold over here in israel... 15:04:37 Sorry awels, for being tardy! You here, too? 15:04:37 * sbonazzo here for integration 15:04:56 * awels depends on your definition of being here :) 15:05:02 amureini: You think you know cold? Heh! 15:05:12 awels: Copy that. 15:05:18 Hello, sbonazzo! 15:05:31 Let's get rolling... 15:05:39 #topic infra update 15:05:54 Who wants to speak for infra today? 15:06:33 Telsin, thanks for the link, that helped 15:06:39 eedri? orc_orc? 15:06:41 dcaro? eedri? 15:07:00 bkp, dcaro is on pto 15:07:11 eedri: Noted, thanks. 15:07:17 bkp, not too much updates from infra, as mostly it was quiet during the shutdown 15:07:38 bkp, i can say though the ilo issue was fixed on the phx lab, and we're waiting now for dcaro to return to start phase II 15:07:51 eedri: Noted. misc gave a similar report for our group: "Nothing broke" 15:08:03 bkp, which includes assining more ips to the lab, migrating linode services, etc.. 15:08:22 bkp, next week we'll get back into the action 15:09:36 Excellent, eedri. Anything else? 15:09:54 bkp, new unstable view was added to show productions jobs 15:10:12 bkp, to better focus on fixing critical jobs 1st, and leave jobs that are WIP for another view 15:11:03 Noted 15:12:30 eedri: Does that complete the infra report? 15:13:45 #info infra update The ILO issue was fixed on the PHX lab, and we're waiting now for dcaro to return to start phase II 15:13:48 #info infra update Phase II includes assining more IPs to the lab, migrating linode services, etc. Expected start: newxt week. 15:13:51 #info infra update A new unstable view was added to show productions jobs to better focus on fixing critical jobs first, and leave jobs that are work-in-progress for another view 15:14:03 I'm going to assume that's it for infra. 15:14:26 Next topic... 15:14:29 #topic 3.5.z updates 15:14:43 sbonazzo: What's the word? 15:14:47 bkp no good news on 3.5 today 15:15:05 bkp sent the status this morning, we've to postpone RC again due to blockers 15:15:17 Blockers, plural? 15:15:24 bkp sadly yes... 15:15:33 bkp we have the one we left before christmas 15:15:41 I just saw one in your status. 15:15:44 bkp and a shiny new caused by epel 6 dropping novnc package 15:16:04 bkp causing dependency breackage on EL6 15:16:12 What's the bug number on the new one? 15:16:40 bkp [Bug 1177290] ovirt-engine not installable on CentOS 6: broken dependency novnc 15:17:21 sent an email about how to handle novnc in 3.5.z / 3.6 here: http://lists.ovirt.org/pipermail/devel/2015-January/009604.html 15:17:29 ybronhei: could you update regarding the el6 build of vdsm for ovirt-3.5.1? 15:17:59 bkp ref to this morning status: http://lists.ovirt.org/pipermail/users/2015-January/030420.html 15:18:39 sbonazzo, anybody: can you help with https://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org//work/tasks/5530/8495530/mock_output.log ? 15:18:50 Okay, 1177290 is assigned to you, sbonazzo. Do you have an ETA? 15:18:50 it is another blocker for 3.5.1 15:19:39 danken: What's that bug number, please? 15:20:23 bkp not sure about current status, need to check with eedri didi and tiraboschi_ on what has already been done. But I think we can workaround it for end of week 15:20:31 danken: i don't have anything to update. i was on other things urgent for 3.5 15:20:47 bkp we'll need to plan properly for future about noVNC feature since its' getting unmaintained 15:20:47 danken: i asked jboggs by mail if he might konw about it 15:21:03 danken: please add the bug to the tracker 15:21:11 ybronhei: could you re-trigger that job? maybe the qemu-kvm dependecy solved itself? 15:21:15 danken: looks like a dependency broken in qemu-img 15:21:44 gchaplik: Any ETA on 1160846? 15:21:57 sbonazzo: bkp: We already have a "workaround" mentioned in the bug - we took downstream rhel sources and built on upstream jenkins, eedri signed them and they are available in the 3.5 repo. So not sure it's a blocker for 3.5.1, although we do need a longer-term solution 15:22:38 bkp, Monday hopefully. 15:22:39 didi wasn't that just for EL (centos), not defora? 15:22:55 sbonazzo, danken ^^^ 15:23:15 amureini: indeed, but there is no principle problem doing that for others. I wasn't aware of a problem in fedora - isn't it shipped there already? 15:23:32 amureini: it's for epel6 but looking at koji, novnc is not actively maintained in el7 or fedora too 15:23:54 amureini: are you refering to BugĀ 1160846 - Can't add disk to VM without specifying disk profile when the storage domain has more than one disk profile 15:24:00 sbonazzo, i was referering to danken's issue with qemu-img 15:24:06 sbonazzo, (not nonvnc) 15:24:25 amureini: that's el6 specific. 15:24:30 danken, no, the koji output you were curious about 15:25:12 bkp: didi: dropping from blockers then 15:25:30 bkp didi will re-target to 3.6 for proper handling 15:26:04 sbonazzo: we also want probably to put it (same rpm?) in master-snapshot-static (and 3.5-snapshot-static) 15:26:18 for el6 15:27:53 didi: +1 15:28:07 Okay, we have the statuses for the two (known) blockers, and then there's the blocker danken just raised, which I assume is not in Bugzilla yet, correct? 15:28:53 bkp I think so 15:29:59 danken: http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=8547445 15:30:01 Okay, I guess keep us posted on the untracked bug. gchaplik reported a possible Monday fix, sbonazzo, if you want to try to reschedule 3.5.1 RC from that. 15:30:39 bkp ok, let's tentatively schedule the build on next wed 15:30:47 bkp: it's not really an ovirt bug 15:31:11 danken: Okay, that wasn't clear. 15:31:18 danken: well, not having vdsm on 3.5.1 may be considered an ovirt bug :-) 15:31:21 sbonazzo: I'd love to get your help with a jenkins job to build vdsm out of koji 15:31:38 sbonazzo: bkp: heh. but it's a koji/qemu-img bug 15:31:39 danken: I'll try to help you with that 15:31:53 danken: https://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org//work/tasks/7450/8547450/root.log same error.. 15:32:06 sbonazzo: thanks. if you get ybronhei do it, we can provide the needed el6 build 15:32:36 danken: ok, thanks 15:32:43 ybronhei: try pinging crobinso@redhat.com of qemu - he can help, too. 15:32:47 Okay, anyone else got anything for 3.5.1? 15:34:35 #info 3.5.z updates 3.5.1 RC is postponed due to two known blockers: 1160846 (which SLA is still working on) and 1177290 (ovirt-engine not installable on CentOS 6: broken dependency novnc) 15:34:39 #info 3.5.z updates Status of 1177290 fix: Not sure of status, but may be able to have a workaround by the end of this week, according to sbonazzo 15:34:42 #info 3.5.z updates According to didi, there is already a "workaround" mentioned in the 1177290 - we took downstream rhel sources and built on upstream jenkins, eedri signed them and they are available in the 3.5 repo. So not sure it's a blocker for 3.5.1, although we do need a longer-term solution 15:34:47 #info 3.5.z updates 1177290 dropped as a blocker, retargeted to 3.6 for proper handling 15:34:50 #info 3.5.z updates Status of 1160846 fix: Hopefully Monday, according to gchaplik 15:34:53 #info 3.5.z updates danken reported another potential blocker with vdsm. No bug assigned/tracked yet. sbonazzo asked to assist. 15:34:56 #info 3.5.z updates There are still 57 bugs targeted to 3.5.1. Excluding node and documentation bugs we still have 37 bugs targeted to 3.5.1 15:34:59 #info 3.5.z updates 3.5.1 RC tentatively scheduled for Jan. 14, 2015. 15:35:02 Let's move on to 3.6... 15:35:07 #topic 3.6 status 15:35:24 sbonazzo: Status? 15:35:28 bkp no great news on 3.6, other than we need to think about what to do with novnc there 15:36:13 looks like jenkins build for 3.6 is currently failing 15:36:31 once it will be back to normal, it should be able to run on f21 too 15:36:56 thanks to emesika's patch 15:37:40 Noted. Anything else beyond this morning's status email? 15:38:48 bkp that's all on my side, anything else is in the same status we had before xmas 15:38:55 bkp: sbonazzo: I can update on some 3.6 progress. 15:39:08 Okay, does anyone have issues/concerns around 3.6? 15:39:21 lvernia: Go ahead. 15:39:33 Host Network QoS is all merged. 15:39:43 It's a debt from 3.4 that provides great functionality. 15:39:50 If anybody's courageous enough to work from master... :) 15:40:19 And since emesika's patch to introduce 3.6 clusters into oVirt was merged today, now this feature (and any other that's already merged) will be available for users to use. 15:40:51 We're also making decent progress on a bunch of other features, updating on the spreadsheet. More should be merged in the coming weeks. 15:42:06 lvernia: Excellent. Anyone else got 3.6 news? 15:43:01 bkp: Define news, we are making progress, some stuff done, some stuff not done. 15:43:31 awels: I would say anything significant (good or bad)? 15:44:05 bkp: In that case not really, some minor features done, the major ones in progress. 15:44:16 awels, Noted 15:45:02 bkp: Actually scratch that, I have on feature a lot of people apparently wanted returned since 3.0. When switching main tabs the search now remembers the query you entered. 15:45:29 bkp: That is done already, so if you are brave enough for 3.6. Give it a whirl. 15:45:31 All: Don't forget to add features to the 3.6 feature spreadsheet! 15:45:49 bkp: Its green in the spreadsheet already 15:47:10 Cool! 15:47:28 #action 3.6.0 status Feature proposed for 3.6.0 must now be collected in the 3.6 Google doc (http://goo.gl/9X3G49) and reviewed by maintainers 15:47:31 #info 3.6.0 status Finished the review process, the remaining key milestones for this release will be scheduled. 15:47:34 #info 3.6.0 status Will now need to think about what to do with novnc in this release. 15:47:37 #info 3.6.0 status Jenkins build for 3.6 currently failing, but once back to nomral, 3.6 should be able to run on F21 (thanks emesika) 15:47:40 #info 3.6.0 status There are 466 bugs targeted to 3.6.0. Excluding node and documentation bugs we have 440 bugs targeted to 3.6.0. 15:47:43 #info 3.6.0 status Host Network QoS is all merged, at long last. 15:47:45 #info 3.6.0 status emesika's patch to introduce 3.6 clusters into oVirt was merged today, now this feature (and any other that's already merged) will be available for users to use. 15:47:48 #info 3.6.0 status Networking is also making decent progress on a bunch of other features, updating on the spreadsheet. More should be merged in the coming weeks. 15:47:51 #info 3.6.0 status UX has completed a feature for 3.6 that a lot of people have apparently wanted returned since 3.0. When switching main tabs the search now remembers the query you entered. 15:47:55 Okay, rolling along... 15:47:58 #topic conferences and workshops 15:48:06 It's mostly FOSDEM-centric news this week... 15:48:22 #info conferences and workshops FOSDEM is fast approaching. If you plan to attend this event on Jan. 31-Feb. 1, stop by the oVirt booth as well as the Virt and IaaS devrooms to hear more about oVirt! 15:48:26 #info conferences and workshops Stay tuned for more info on a FOSDEM social gathering for oVirt during the event, too! 15:48:29 #info conferences and workshops We are currently planning a one-day oVirt Workshop to coincide with FOSSAsia in Singapore, Feb. 13-15. Asia-Pac, Australia, and West Asia users are invited to attend. Details and registration to follow soon! 15:48:33 #info conferences and workshops jbrooks will be speaking on the new Smart VM Scheduler at SCALE 13X, as well as bkp, who will be discussing data centers vs. cloud VM management. A shared booth will be present as well. 15:48:37 #info conferences and workshops bkp will be speaking at the Linux Collab Summit on VM and container management 15:48:54 (And by social gathering, I mean beer) 15:49:15 Does anyone have any other conference info to report? 15:50:04 bkp - i will be giving a talk at DevConfCZ on Feb. 15:51:02 This is good. 15:51:27 #info conferences and workshops amureini will be giving a talk at DevConfCZ in Feb, after FOSDEM 15:51:44 If that's it, last topic... 15:51:53 #topic other topics 15:52:25 #info other topics bkp has completed a case study on CloudSpin, and will be posting it today on ovirt.org. 15:52:36 #info other topics One of the 2015 goals is updating oVirt documentation. To that end, we will compile a list of known use cases/tasks that users and admins do with oVirt in the real world. Once this task list is compiled, we can start building an action-oriented set of user documentation. bkp will be setting this up and sending out a notice soon. 15:52:50 #info other topics The Dec. 2014 newsletter was just posted (which is why this meeting was late), and can be found at http://lists.ovirt.org/pipermail/users/2015-January/030436.html 15:53:24 That's all from me... any news or discussion from the group? 15:54:34 Going once? 15:54:55 Twice? 15:55:47 Okay, we're done. You all stay warm out there, I'm going out to shovel the 20 cm of snow that's coming down. :P 15:55:53 #endmeeting