15:03:20 <bkp> #startmeeting oVirt Weekly Sync
15:03:20 <ovirtbot> Meeting started Wed Dec 10 15:03:20 2014 UTC.  The chair is bkp. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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15:03:33 <bkp> #topic Agenda and Roll Call
15:03:34 <bkp> #info infra update
15:03:34 <bkp> #info 3.5.z updates
15:03:34 <bkp> #info 3.6.0 status
15:03:34 <bkp> #info conferences and workshops
15:03:36 <bkp> #info other topics
15:03:43 * awels here for UX
15:04:11 <bkp> Hey, awels!
15:04:25 * lvernia is also here!
15:04:40 <bkp> 'sup lvernia?
15:04:50 <lvernia> bkp: Safe and sound :)
15:04:53 <lvernia> bkp: You?
15:05:10 <bkp> Cold and crazed.
15:05:16 <lvernia> To each their own.
15:05:23 <awels> bkp: Define 'cold'
15:05:29 <bkp> Holidays in Indiana
15:06:26 <bkp> Let's see.. right now its 30F/-1C
15:06:36 <bkp> So, kinda warm for this time of year
15:06:48 <bkp> Anyone else here?
15:07:00 <lvernia> In Israel it's winter. So, ~23C during the day...
15:07:29 <bkp> lvernia: Pretty much don't like you right now.
15:07:36 <lvernia> bkp: :)
15:08:00 <bkp> Okay, let's roll through and see who decides to jump in.
15:08:00 <awels> bkp: Its cold here today, ~50
15:08:20 <lvernia> Sounds like a plan.
15:08:33 <bkp> awels: Please, that's shorts and t-shirt weather.
15:08:35 * awels makes note to travel to Israel during winter.
15:08:42 <awels> bkp: For us that is cold
15:08:59 <bkp> #topic infra update
15:09:07 <lvernia> awels: More than welcome!
15:09:35 <bkp> Okay, who all is here for infra? I'm sure it's someone warm. eedri?
15:09:49 <eedri> dcaro|afk, ?
15:10:00 <eedri> bkp, i can give a short update if dcaro|afk isn't around
15:10:42 <eedri> bkp, multiple outages for ovirt.org wiki due to lack of space on openshift gear, not resolved, just mitigated by removed log files
15:10:45 <bkp> eedri: Okay, I have some stuff maybe too.
15:11:09 <eedri> bkp, long term solutions is to migrate the wiki to another platform (self hosting/github)
15:11:44 <bkp> eedri: Agreed. I have more on moving away from MediaWiki.
15:11:44 <eedri> bkp, we're still working on getting ilo access fixed for phx lab, not resolved yet, local kvm connected and still not working
15:12:22 <eedri> bkp, new discussion on list about adding more stricts hooks for preventing bad patches from getting in
15:12:48 <eedri> bkp, afaik f21 jobs are still disabled pending open bugs from dev to fix
15:13:01 <jmp242> Is there a way to install an ovirt host on EL6 and associate it with a manager without using the GUI? The GUI fails for us because we don't allow root logins over the network on our installs
15:13:31 <awels> jmp242: You can use key based installs as well.
15:13:37 <awels> jmp242: From the UI
15:13:47 <doron> jmp242: there's a meeting now. please wait for it to end. thanks.
15:13:48 <eedri> bkp, work is being done to automate ovirt-node builds, dcaro|afk and tolik from ovirt-node team is on it
15:14:47 <eedri> bkp, in general jenkins looks much better after massive stabilization work done, and migrating jobs to isolated mock environments
15:15:19 <bkp> Good to hear...
15:16:15 <bkp> ...any other updates?
15:16:15 <ovirtbot> bkp: Error: "..any" is not a valid command.
15:16:45 <bkp> (I swear to $DIETY, ovirtbot)
15:17:29 <bkp> Was that it for infra eedri?
15:17:44 <eedri> bkp, for now, i think so, maybe dcaro|afk will have more when he's back
15:18:12 <bkp> Okay, I can swing back to dcaro|afk if he gets back.
15:18:42 <bkp> As eedri alluded, we will very likely moving away from the MediaWiki platform altogether, and to a more static-content site that uses a git repo to store/manage content and something like middleman to render the content.
15:18:46 <bkp> This move would eliminate the need for a dB and potentially make our lives a lot easier. So, we may want to just expand OpenShift storage and hang on there until we make a platform move.
15:19:40 <bkp> The new news on this is that the timing on this move may have been moved up. Initially there was to be focus on the Gluster project's documentation, but they might not be ready to deal with documentation at this time, so now support is now looking at oVirt's documentation and, by extention, MediaWiki.
15:20:03 <bkp> I will keep everyone updated on this as plans get solidified.
15:20:18 <bkp> #info infra update Site outages due to full MySQL disk. Req for more OpenShift storage in the pipeline.
15:20:21 <bkp> #info infra update We should be leaving MediaWiki in the near future, so we may need to just hang in there with OpenShift
15:20:24 <bkp> #info infra update Move away from MediaWiki (outlined at http://lists.ovirt.org/pipermail/infra/2014-October/008231.html) may happen sooner rather than later. bkp is working with shaunm on timing/execution on doc side.
15:20:28 <bkp> #info infra update Still working on getting ilo access fixed for phx lab, not resolved yet, local kvm connected and still not working
15:20:31 <bkp> #info infra update New discussion on infra list about adding more stricts hooks for preventing bad patches from getting in
15:20:34 <bkp> #info infra update F21 jobs are still disabled pending open bugs from dev to fix
15:20:37 <bkp> #info infra update Work is being done to automate ovirt-node builds, dcaro|afk and tolik from ovirt-node team is on it
15:20:40 <bkp> #info infra update In general jenkins looks much better after massive stabilization work done, and migrating jobs to isolated mock environments
15:20:47 <bkp> Moving on...
15:20:54 <bkp> #topic 3.5.z updates
15:21:04 <bkp> sbonazzo is out on PTO today, so I will be giving the updates from him...
15:21:19 <bkp> We still have blockers for oVirt 3.5.1 RC release so we need to postpone it until they'll be fixed.
15:21:35 <bkp> We still have blockers for oVirt 3.5.1 RC release so we need to postpone it until they'll be fixed.
15:21:52 <bkp> Whoops...
15:21:55 <bkp> Because of the holidays, we need to figure out a new date for the RC release today.
15:22:41 <bkp> Before we nail that down, maybe get an eta on the blockers... Blockers for 3.5.1 are 1160846 (sla) and 1168709 (virt), both posted as NEW
15:22:58 <doron> bkp: we can get get a decision over mail.
15:23:07 <doron> as for sla 1160846
15:23:22 <bkp> doron: Noted.
15:23:25 <doron> it should be ready during next week.
15:24:08 <bkp> doron: Got it.
15:24:13 <bkp> fromani: Status and ETA of 1168709 fix?
15:25:14 <fromani> bkp: master patch merged, 3.5. patch posted, initial review done, possible merge later today
15:26:01 <bkp> Awesome, thanks fromani !
15:26:06 <fromani> bkp: np!
15:26:12 <bkp> There are still 63 bugs targeted to 3.5.1. These either should be cleaned up or re-targeted to 3.5.2.
15:26:30 <bkp> sbonazzo asks that you be sure you fill in the 3.5.1 release notes.
15:27:15 <bkp> Also, anyone in the community who is testing the oVirt 3.5 nightly snapshot should add their name/ID to the 3.5.1 test page at http://www.ovirt.org/Testing/oVirt_3.5.1_Testing
15:27:20 <amureini> waaaay too late, but /me is here too
15:27:28 <doron> bkp: worth putting an #action for relevant people.
15:27:43 <bkp> That was it from sbonazzo. Anything else?
15:27:48 <bkp> doron: noted
15:29:03 <bkp> Nothing else for 3.5.1?
15:29:58 <bkp> #info 3.5.z updates Full status report at http://lists.ovirt.org/pipermail/users/2014-December/029824.html
15:29:59 <doron> none.
15:30:01 <bkp> #info 3.5.z updates Two blockers have postponed RC again. New RC date will be discussed and decided in mailing list.
15:30:04 <bkp> #info 3.5.z updates Bug 1160846 will be fixed next week. Bug 1168709 master patch merged, 3.5 patch posted, initial review done, possible merge later today.
15:30:07 <bkp> #action 3.5.z updates ALL: re-target known 3.5.1 bugs (http://goo.gl/7G0PDV) to 3.5.2 as needed
15:30:10 <bkp> #action 3.5.z updates ALL: please fill in 3.5.1 release notes (http://www.ovirt.org/OVirt_3.5.1_Release_Notes)
15:30:13 <bkp> #action 3.5.z updates Anyone testing the oVirt 3.5 nightly snapshot should add their name/ID to the test page (http://www.ovirt.org/Testing/oVirt_3.5.1_Testing)
15:30:37 <bkp> Moving on...
15:30:47 <bkp> #topic 3.6 status
15:31:03 <bkp> sbonazzo and bkp have cleaned up and posted the new release criteria (http://www.ovirt.org/Release_Criteria_Template) and release process (http://www.ovirt.org/Release_process) on the wiki. The 3.6 release management document (http://www.ovirt.org/OVirt_3.6_Release_Management) has also been updated.
15:31:30 <bkp> No blockers for 3.6 as of yet. 460 bugs targeted to 3.6.0, 436 if you exclude node and documentation.
15:31:52 <bkp> It looks like teams have updated the 3.6 new feature spreadsheet (http://goo.gl/9X3G49) with new features. If your team has not done so, please get this done ASAP.
15:32:28 <bkp> Remaining milestones for 3.6 will need to be scheduled.
15:32:41 <bkp> We still must determine whether we should extend cycle to 10 months for allowing to include a large feature set, reduce cycle to under six months and split features over 3.6 and 3.7, or keep things on the current six-month cycle. (Discussion thread: http://lists.ovirt.org/pipermail/users/2014-November/028875.html).
15:33:01 <bkp> Any thoughts on this now? Or do we want to discuss in the above thread?
15:33:24 <lvernia> bkp: Looks like neither.
15:34:01 <doron> I'm for keeping things in the 6-months cycle.
15:34:31 <doron> but we can keep the ml discussion running.
15:34:36 <bkp> I kind of am, too, if only for the sake of maintaining the downstream projects' collective sanity.
15:35:17 <doron> bkp: let's finalize it with the ml discussion.
15:35:51 <bkp> doron: Agreed, making action item. And that was all from sbonazzo. Any thing else on 3.6?
15:36:02 <doron> none from my side.
15:36:34 <bkp> awels? lvernia? amureini? You got anything to add/discuss?
15:36:49 <bkp> (Or anyone else, fr that matter.)
15:36:57 <lvernia> Nope.
15:37:04 <amureini> nothing from my side
15:37:13 <awels> bkp: Not from my end, I don't care that much about how long the cycle is.
15:37:46 <bkp> Okay, if nothing else on 3.6, let's roll on...
15:37:57 <bkp> #info 3.6.0 status Full status report at http://lists.ovirt.org/pipermail/users/2014-December/029823.html
15:38:00 <bkp> #info 3.6.0 status New release criteria template has been posted http://www.ovirt.org/Release_Criteria_Template
15:38:03 <bkp> #info 3.6.0 status New release process has been posted http://www.ovirt.org/Release_process
15:38:06 <bkp> #info 3.6.0 status oVirt 3.6 release management document has been updated http://www.ovirt.org/OVirt_3.6_Release_Management
15:38:09 <bkp> #info 3.6.0 status No blockers for 3.6 as of yet. 460 bugs targeted to 3.6.0, 436 is you exclude node and documentation.
15:38:12 <bkp> #action 3.6.0 status If you have not already, maintainers please update the 3.6 new feature spreadsheet http://goo.gl/9X3G49 ASAP
15:38:15 <bkp> #action 3.6.0 status ALL: Please participate in the scheduling discussion (http://lists.ovirt.org/pipermail/users/2014-November/028875.html) on changing/keeping dev cycle.
15:38:20 <bkp> #topic conferences and workshops
15:38:36 <bkp> #info conferences and workshops SCALE13X CFP closes today. bkp has virtualization/cloud talk proposed, jbrooks will be proposing to talk about new smart scheduler (thanks msivak on loan of the topic)
15:38:57 <bkp> #info conferences and workshops fabiand is proposing a talk on Node at CeBIT (March 16-20, Hannover, Germany)
15:39:24 * fabiand nods
15:39:37 <bkp> #info conferences and workshops Booth notification for FOSDEM is on 12/16. Call for papers for the virt and IaaS devrooms are closed. bkp has not learned when talks will be announced, except for "soon" from jzb.
15:40:07 <bkp> That's all I have for events at this point.
15:40:13 <bkp> Anyone else?
15:40:33 <doron> bkp: devconf?
15:40:52 <doron> I mean devconf.cz
15:41:12 <bkp> doron: Yeah, I figured. I do not know who's going or what talks are going on.
15:41:29 <bkp> If anyone is attending/speaking, please let bkp know.
15:41:30 <amureini> bklp, doron, afaik the cfp is closed, but they haven't announced who was accepted yet
15:41:33 <doron> bkp: very well. Worth checking for next mtg.
15:41:43 <bkp> Ah, thanks, amureini
15:42:00 <bkp> I wasn't planning to attend, but there is now a chance I may end up going.
15:42:26 <doron> bkp: and we have several folks who submitted a talk.
15:43:39 <bkp> Got this... anything else?
15:44:21 <doron> none from my side.
15:44:30 <bkp> #info conferences and workshops Devconf.cz talks not announced yet. Will update. Please let bkp know if your talk is accepted when time comes.
15:44:41 <bkp> Oh, and I forgot something:
15:44:53 <bkp> #info conferences and workshops bkp is working on updating oVirt intro slides to current version/features in oVirt.
15:45:39 <bkp> #topic other topics
15:45:54 <bkp> #info other topics Mailman has been having consistent issues bouncing gmail recipients' messages from the users mailing list. misc is looking into this matter to see what, if anything, we can do.
15:46:47 <bkp> #info other topics bkp is working on a marketing/position paper with rbowen from RDO to help users figure out when to use oVirt and when to use RDO. Early draft stage now, will share later as project progresses.
15:47:09 <bkp> And finally, at least from me:
15:47:12 <bkp> #info other topics There will be a weekly sync meeting on Dec. 17 at the usual time. However, there will *not* be sync meetings for oVirt on Dec. 24 or 31 due to the annual RHT shutdown.
15:47:36 <bkp> Does anyone want to raise an issue? Discuss something?
15:48:05 <doron> none.
15:48:13 <awels> nothing here
15:49:00 <bkp> Okay, sounds like we're done this week. See you all next week and so long, and thanks for all the fish!
15:49:07 <bkp> #endmeeting