13:01:29 <fabiand> #startmeeting oVirt Node Weekly Meeting
13:01:29 <ovirtbot> Meeting started Tue May  6 13:01:29 2014 UTC.  The chair is fabiand. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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13:01:35 <fabiand> #chairs jboggs rbarry
13:01:40 * jboggs here
13:01:44 <fabiand> #topic Agenda
13:01:46 <fabiand> morning jboggs
13:01:49 <jboggs> morning
13:02:02 * rbarry here
13:02:09 <fabiand> morning rbarry
13:02:34 <fabiand> #info Build Status (3.0.5)
13:02:41 <fabiand> #info Feature Status for 3.5
13:02:52 <fabiand> #info Other Items
13:02:57 <fabiand> #topic Build Status
13:03:12 <fabiand> One action item last week was the preparation of a beta for 3.0.5
13:03:17 <fabiand> I am actually sitting on this
13:03:37 <fabiand> But I also wanted to check with rbarry about the missing ovirt.pp file.
13:03:43 <fabiand> rbarry, did you gain some more insight yesterday?
13:04:09 <rbarry> No, not yet. I'll need to add debugging information to ovirt-node-selinux's %post
13:04:17 <fabiand> okay
13:04:32 <fabiand> Oh - it affects only master anyway ..
13:04:37 <rbarry> It strongly appears as if semodule -s targeted -i... isn't running, but I can't verify that without checking
13:04:47 <fabiand> okay
13:05:20 <fabiand> #info fabiand is one 3.0.5 beta
13:05:36 <fabiand> #topic Feature Status for 3.5
13:05:46 <fabiand> Any updates on this?
13:06:01 * fabiand has trouble building images with lmc and imgfac ..
13:06:29 <jboggs> still working on hosted engine, mostly installation issues with the network config
13:06:44 <rbarry> Backend for registration is probably 50% done, but I haven't tested against an actual engine yet
13:06:51 <jboggs> also the ha agent/broker not starting, but think that's related to networkign hardware that I'm swapping out this am
13:07:44 <fabiand> #info hosted-engine still issues with the network after installation
13:08:02 <fabiand> #info generic registration: Backend work progresses no testing with engine yet
13:08:35 <fabiand> #info ovirt-appliance: Build problems with lmc/imgfac - mainly debugging is hard
13:08:56 <fabiand> Okay, let's try to look at those features a bit more in depth next week
13:09:50 <fabiand> #topic Other Items
13:10:01 <fabiand> #info ml merge did not happen yet, but is probably coming up
13:10:31 <fabiand> One itme which was brought up today by dnaken is that vdsm does not work nicely with NM
13:11:16 <fabiand> So we should probably sit together or talk about what we plan for th elong future ..
13:11:57 <fabiand> IIRC we started to use NM-glib to gathe rlife informations via pyhon calls
13:12:06 <fabiand> Those calls would break if we removed NM
13:12:21 <fabiand> Additionally we rely on sysv network init scripts or NM to bring up the ocnfigured interfaces
13:12:48 <fabiand> And that basically means we depend on NM at least in Fedora
13:12:59 <fabiand> So we should clarify how we do this on the long run ..
13:13:34 <fabiand> rbarry, jboggs - does someone of you want to look into this?
13:13:47 <fabiand> Otherwise I'd come up with an email to strat the discussion/sync between vdsm and us
13:13:58 <jboggs> that may be best
13:14:01 <rbarry> Email may be better for visibility
13:14:07 <fabiand> Yep
13:14:15 <fabiand> I'd use the "new" ovirt-devel list
13:14:47 <rbarry> I'm happy keeping NM, especially with the changes in F20, but I don't know if the esoteric cases (bonds, bridging, vlans on top of either, etc) made it into EL7
13:15:00 <fabiand> Yeah, I also favor NM
13:15:14 <fabiand> And IIRC those chanegs went into el7
13:15:15 <rbarry> It'd be nice to move to the systemd networking bits eventually, but I have absolutely no idea whether they ever intend to cover those use cases either
13:15:37 <fabiand> rbarry, they'd be alos an option, but they will probably not land in el7
13:15:46 <fabiand> at leats not in the beginnig. they seem way to young ..
13:15:53 <fabiand> otoh they'd cover our cases ..
13:15:58 <fabiand> as far as I can tell
13:16:43 <fabiand> they should cover basics up to wireless
13:16:53 <fabiand> but who knows ..
13:17:15 <fabiand> #action fabiand to send out email to coordinate network stuff with vdsm
13:17:25 <fabiand> Okay
13:17:39 <fabiand> Anthing else, jboggs rbarry ?
13:17:46 <jboggs> nothing from me
13:17:58 <rbarry> Nothing
13:18:01 <fabiand> Ack
13:18:04 <fabiand> Then thanks!
13:18:07 <fabiand> #endmeeting