15:04:03 <doron> #startmeeting oVirt Weekly Sync
15:04:03 <ovirtbot> Meeting started Wed Mar 26 15:04:03 2014 UTC.  The chair is doron. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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15:04:46 * bkp here
15:04:49 <doron> #topic Agenda and roll Call
15:04:50 <doron> #info infra update
15:04:52 <doron> #info 3.3 updates
15:04:53 <doron> #info 3.4 status
15:04:55 <doron> #innfo 3.5 planning
15:04:56 <doron> #info conferences and workshops
15:04:58 <doron> #info other topics
15:05:20 <doron> #info this week the meeting is 1 hour later  in US due to DST.
15:05:25 * sbonazzo here
15:05:33 <doron> I suggest we start
15:05:46 <doron> #topic infra update
15:05:49 <doron> orc_orc: here?
15:06:22 <doron> dcaro: here?
15:06:34 <dcaro> doron: yep
15:06:47 <doron> dcaro: can you give us some updates on ovirt infra?
15:07:40 <dcaro> doron: This week we have started adding slaves from openstack os1 cloud, also added the update_tracker hook to all the projects on gerrit, so you'll se now bugs updated for all the projects
15:08:49 <doron> #info ifra updates: Jenkins got new slaves from OS1 cloud. update_tracker hook added to all the projects on gerrit, so bugs are updates in all projects.
15:08:52 <doron> dcaro: thanks
15:08:56 <doron> moving on
15:09:04 <doron> #topic 3.3 updates
15:09:16 <doron> sbonazzo: anything relevant for 3.3?
15:09:40 <sbonazzo> doron: started preparing 3.3.5 release notes page for upcoming 3.3.5 RC
15:10:06 <sbonazzo> doron: scheduled for 2014-04-02
15:10:23 <sbonazzo> doron: no blockers for 3.3.5 up to now
15:10:39 <doron> #info oVirt  3.3.5 RC planned for April 2nd. Release notes preparation started.
15:10:44 <doron> sbonazzo: thanks
15:10:50 <doron> let's move to 3.4
15:10:56 <doron> #topic 3.4 status
15:11:03 <doron> sbonazzo: 3.4 status?
15:11:14 <sbonazzo> doron: 3.4.0 is pending final acceptance tests on node and vdsm
15:11:24 <doron> fabian_a: here?
15:11:25 <sbonazzo> doron once we have test result we can release it
15:11:31 <doron> fabiand: here?
15:11:41 * fabiand is here!
15:12:00 <fabiand> so
15:12:03 <doron> fabiand: do we have the ability to install the new node somewhere and make sure vdsm is running??
15:12:28 <fabiand> doron, I tried it with my engine, but it is to old
15:12:30 <doron> fabiand: this should help sbonazzo to release 3.4 IIUC.
15:12:39 <fabiand> Anyone who was got a recent engine - at best 3.4. should be able to test it ..
15:12:51 <doron> fabiand: unsure we even need an engine
15:12:57 <fabiand> It's a bit far off node's core, so I'd really appreciate if Engine or vdsm people could look into it
15:13:09 <doron> if vdsm is up and running it means we're good.
15:13:11 <fabiand> doron, well, it's about vdsm not starting ..
15:13:12 <doron> am I wrong?
15:13:18 <doron> fabiand: indeed.
15:13:24 <fabiand> I am not sure if this is only the case after the registration ..
15:13:43 <doron> fabiand: IIRC the issue is about logging
15:14:00 <doron> so if we have log files and vdsm is up we're good. am I wrong?
15:14:02 <fabiand> doron, if it's only about vdsm beeing up, then I can say that it is up and running after a normal installation
15:14:15 <doron> danken: here?
15:14:25 <doron> fabiand: thanks.
15:14:29 <fabiand> probably - but as we couldn't test the whole functionality because of this issue, it can still be that other issues are hidden
15:15:05 <doron> fabiand: we may always have other issues. but this one is resolved if vdsm is running and logging.
15:15:14 <fabiand> doron, the log files, which were previously missing are now there
15:15:25 <fabiand> ok ..
15:15:33 <fabiand> and all log files contain data, except the metadata logfile
15:15:53 <doron> fabiand: sounds good to me.
15:15:57 <fabiand> to me too.
15:15:58 <doron> sbonazzo: are yo uok with it?
15:16:22 <sbonazzo> doron: well, release criteria says MUST: ovirt-node full cycle (register, approve and running VM, reboot and verify things still work)
15:16:41 <sbonazzo> doron: so maybe a bit more testing should be done
15:16:50 <doron> sbonazzo: can you prepare a vm with engine 3.4, and use it with fabiand's new node?
15:17:09 <sbonazzo> doron: I'm downloading the iso while we're speaking
15:17:22 <sbonazzo> doron: I'll try to test it after the meeting
15:17:27 <doron> sbonazzo: all you need is the engine. fabiand already has a node running
15:17:33 <doron> sbonazzo: very well.
15:17:42 <sbonazzo> doron: ok
15:17:53 <fabiand> doron, ah I will not be able to connect my node to sbonazzo's engine btw
15:18:07 <doron> bkp: please sync with sbonazzo. If all goes well we should be able to release 3.4 ga tomorrow morning.
15:18:19 <doron> fabiand: ?
15:18:19 <bkp> doron: Acknowledged
15:18:43 <doron> fabiand: can you install a 3.4 engine in a vm next to your node?
15:18:55 <fabiand> ...
15:18:55 <ovirtbot> fabiand: Error: ".." is not a valid command.
15:18:59 <fabiand> sure I can
15:19:04 <fabiand> But I'd really love someone else to do this.
15:19:26 <fabiand> If no one is stepping up then I can do so.
15:19:27 <doron> fabiand: if you can provide sbonazzo access he may be able to help.
15:19:43 <doron> is this doeable?
15:19:59 <Rydekull> http://www.virtualizationmatrix.com/
15:20:39 <doron> fabiand: any other options?
15:20:54 <fabiand> is there a livecd with engine 3.4?
15:21:21 <danken> fabian being "up" is not enough
15:21:32 <mskrivanek> doron: Do we maybe need an update to the announcement email delaying the 3.4 GA date to past Monday? In addition to this mtg minutes even?
15:21:33 <doron> danken: why?
15:21:34 <fabiand> danken, thanks - that is what I initially said
15:21:35 <danken> dougsland tested that running VMs and hibernating them works
15:21:51 <doron> mskrivanek: I'll make a note of it here.
15:21:51 <danken> a non-douglas should repeat that before we go live
15:22:01 <dougsland> danken, +1
15:22:29 <doron> danken: the original issue was about log files. why does it need vm running?
15:22:34 <fabiand> btw dougsland did great work on nailing the issues down and fixing them.
15:22:40 <danken> there have been quite a few patches since the last beta
15:22:56 <doron> danken: so it's not about log files....
15:22:57 <danken> doron: it's not only log files. also configuration files not persiste
15:23:03 <dougsland> doron, the log issue were just about the vdsm not being up
15:23:10 <dougsland> during the registration
15:23:21 <dougsland> we had issues with persist files when node get rebooted
15:23:27 <doron> dougsland: I know. but apparntly there was more than that.
15:23:54 <dougsland> doron, I know :P
15:24:03 <doron> anyway, so what we need now is someone to use fabiand's node t orun vms.
15:24:08 <doron> (ti run)
15:24:11 <doron> (to run)
15:24:35 <danken> I'd like to see that at least one more person can run VMs with vdsm-4.14.6
15:24:55 <fabiand> To me it seems as if we have a lack of testers.
15:24:55 <doron> danken: which is in the new node?
15:25:02 <dougsland> fabiand, not only me, all of us.
15:25:05 <sbonazzo> danken: do you mean in general or on node?
15:25:12 <danken> fabian, if you can try out migration it would be even better. since everything breaks migration.
15:25:23 <fabiand> The new node is: http://resources.ovirt.org/releases/3.4.0_pre/iso/ovirt-node-iso-3.0.4-1.0.201401291204.vdsm34rc3.el6.iso
15:25:27 <fabiand> danken, ^^
15:25:50 <dougsland> danken, fabiand doron talked with apahim he wants to help on testing.
15:25:51 <danken> sbonazzo: we had practically 0 beta testing of that ovirt-node.
15:26:05 <danken> I'd like it to be tested, a bit.
15:26:09 <danken> not much.
15:26:10 <sbonazzo> fabiand:  I can't believe we're 208 in this chat room and nobody can test it, I'll give it a run between this evening and tomorrow morning
15:26:12 <danken> but a bit.
15:26:17 <dougsland> apahim, say hello to fabiand :)
15:26:21 <doron> dougsland: apahim very well. let's sync offline and update using the mailing list.
15:26:28 <doron> so
15:26:30 <sbonazzo> fabiand I hope everything go well and we can somehow release it tomorrow
15:26:30 <fabiand> apahim, heya - /me still remembers that evrsion check ;)
15:26:38 <doron> just to conclude
15:26:42 <fabiand> sbonazzo, I am also optimistic
15:26:49 <tiraboschi> sbonazzo: I'll try to help you
15:27:00 <doron> we'll try to conclude testing the new node today.
15:27:06 <doron> is all goes well we ga tomorrow.
15:27:11 <doron> sbonazzo: ok?
15:27:13 <dougsland> doron, +1
15:27:17 <sbonazzo> doron: +1
15:27:18 <apahim> hey fabiand, dougsland o/
15:27:27 <doron> dougsland:  apahim sbonazzo thanks
15:27:48 <doron> #info pending verification today, 3.4 GA may be released tomorrow.
15:27:53 <doron> bkp ^^^^^^
15:28:01 <doron> moving on
15:28:02 <bkp> doron: Noted
15:28:09 <doron> #topic 3.5 planning
15:28:14 <doron> ok guys
15:28:26 <doron> I want to start reviewing the google doc for 3.5 planning
15:28:42 <doron> I'll start with gluster
15:28:59 <doron> who's here from gluster?
15:29:05 <sahina> doron, hi
15:29:07 * fabiand wonders if we can't use Microsoft Office Live ...
15:29:17 <doron> hi sahina
15:29:35 <doron> you have 6 features listed
15:29:40 <doron> none with a devel owner.
15:29:48 <sahina> doron, do we have any tentative dates for 3.5 feature freeze?
15:29:53 <doron> also 5 missing an ovirt bug.
15:30:07 <doron> sahina: currently May 1st feature freeze.
15:30:15 <sahina> doron, will update these..the bug ids as well as devel owner..
15:30:46 <sahina> doron, hmm..in that case, we need to reconsider the list :). i'd assumed end may
15:30:57 <doron> sahina: very well. we'll do a separate review of each one next week. Please have it updated for next wek.
15:31:10 <sahina> doron, sure. thanks
15:31:15 <doron> sahina: thanks.
15:31:42 <doron> #info gluster to update their 6 features for next week's review with owners and bug ID's.
15:31:48 <doron> next is infra
15:31:54 <doron> ybronhei: here?
15:32:02 <ybronhei> doron: yes
15:32:12 <doron> ybronhei: 10 features?
15:32:28 <ybronhei> doron: :) its not fully arranged yet
15:32:33 <doron> 4 missing bugs, 6 missing owner
15:32:44 <ybronhei> doron: and i need to add also foreman integration
15:32:51 <doron> ybronhei: is this your plan for 3.5 currently?
15:32:56 <ybronhei> doron: yes yes, barak will arrange it better during next week
15:33:10 <doron> ybronhei: very well.
15:33:35 <doron> #info infra to update a missing feature, devel owners and bug id's.
15:33:48 <ybronhei> doron: what else can i say ? .. the main features are aaa, json rpc, and foreman integration
15:33:48 <doron> sbonazzo: infra for 3.5?
15:33:56 <doron> sbonazzo: integration for 3.5?
15:34:04 <ybronhei> doron: the others are quite small rfe s
15:34:17 <doron> ybronhei: we'll review each one next week.
15:34:22 <sbonazzo> doron: we've updated the planning data sheet
15:34:31 <ybronhei> doron: ok
15:34:45 <doron> sbonazzo: yep, looks very good.
15:34:51 <sbonazzo> doron: we're going to work on having dwh, reports and websocket proxy installable on separate hosts
15:35:16 <doron> sbonazzo: so please be prepared to explain them for next week.
15:35:23 <sbonazzo> doron: ok
15:35:43 <doron> #info integration has 5 RFEs in place for 3.5. Will be reviewed next week.
15:35:54 <doron> who's here for network?
15:36:51 <doron> danken: any idea who can represent the network team?
15:37:24 <doron> I'll come back to network at the end.
15:37:31 <doron> moving to node.
15:37:38 <doron> fabiand: node's plans for 3.5?
15:37:52 <fabiand> hey
15:37:55 <doron> hey
15:38:08 <fabiand> Well,
15:38:22 <fabiand> we've got the long standing issue of reworking the registration
15:38:28 <fabiand> the Engine registration
15:38:49 <fabiand> The we are looking in adding hosted engine support, jboggs is working on this
15:38:49 <doron> fabiand: seems to be missing a devel owner?
15:39:04 <fabiand> not anymore :)
15:39:12 <doron> :)
15:39:23 <doron> fabiand: very well. so we'll review each one next week.
15:39:35 <fabiand> ack
15:40:00 <doron> #info node has 3 features in pace for 3.5. Will be reviewed next week.
15:40:14 <doron> moving next to sla
15:41:06 <doron> #info SLA to handle missing bugs, and devel owners for next week. Currently 10 RFE's in place for 3.5.
15:41:12 <doron> I wonder who handles sla...
15:41:15 <doron> moving on
15:41:19 <doron> storage
15:41:28 <doron> who's here for storage?
15:41:57 <doron> sgotliv: here?
15:42:54 <doron> I'll get back to storage soon
15:43:18 <doron> ecohen: here?
15:43:21 <ecohen> doron, yes.
15:43:37 <doron> ecohen:  UX plans for 3.5?
15:43:48 <ecohen> doron, ux features for 3.5: (1) move to rest api  (2) new look and feel (PatternFly adoption)
15:44:01 <ecohen> doron, they may be more, but much smaller, not sure if worth tracking in the google doc
15:44:18 <doron> ecohen: very well. up to you to decide if rfe or a nit.
15:44:25 <ecohen> doron, sure.
15:44:25 <doron> we'll review it next week.
15:44:44 <doron> #info ux has currently 2 rfe's in place for 3.5. we'lkl review them next week.
15:44:47 <doron> ecohen: thanks
15:44:52 <ecohen> doron, np
15:44:53 <doron> moving next to virt
15:44:58 <mskrivanek> I wonder who handles virt...
15:45:03 <doron> :)
15:45:08 <mskrivanek> we have a looong list
15:45:09 <doron> mskrivanek: virt plans for 35?
15:45:20 <mskrivanek> only 30
15:45:27 <mskrivanek> but most of them nits
15:45:34 <mskrivanek> 3 "maybes"
15:45:59 <doron> mskrivanek: so you may want to leave only rfe's in and exclude nits?
15:46:03 <mskrivanek> ~2-3 we want to only start as they will span 2 releases
15:46:32 <mskrivanek> well I don't know, in 3.4 we included them all. They are proper RFEs all of them, just not much work
15:46:55 <mskrivanek> many were already in progress....or...the most natural explanation - we're just that good
15:46:56 <doron> mskrivanek: very well. it's your call.
15:46:57 <mskrivanek> :-D
15:47:08 <doron> just remember we track them all.
15:47:14 <mskrivanek> yes, it's fine
15:47:25 <doron> mskrivanek: also please make sure to update missing bz's and devel owners for next week.
15:47:26 <mskrivanek> missing bugs, working on that...
15:47:41 <mskrivanek> devel owners are mostly there
15:48:06 <doron> #info virt has currently ~30 features for 3.5. The list should be updated for na review next week with devel owners and missing bugs.
15:48:10 <doron> mskrivanek: thanks.
15:48:17 <doron> pps guys here?
15:48:24 <doron> sorry, I meant ppc
15:48:28 <doron> lbianc: here?
15:49:07 <mskrivanek> I got the PPC on line 92...feel free to elaborate in more detail
15:49:27 <doron> someone else here from ppc guys?
15:50:05 <doron> mskrivanek: can you mail them and ask for their plans in 3.5?
15:50:37 <mskrivanek> ok
15:50:43 <doron> mskrivanek: thanks
15:51:02 <doron> #info PPC folks should be contacted offline to get their plans.
15:51:13 <doron> anyone here for network or storage?
15:51:37 <doron> #info network team missing a representative.
15:51:43 <doron> #info storage team missing a representative.
15:52:22 <doron> So this is it currently. by next week I we should have everything in place to start work on 3.5
15:52:28 <doron> may the force be with us ;)
15:52:31 <doron> moving on
15:52:33 <doron> #topic conferences and workshops
15:52:40 <doron> bkp: updates?
15:52:53 <bkp> Yes, I will be speaking at LinuxFest NorthWest on April 26-27 Topic: Building a community around mature software.
15:53:04 <bkp> rkoch is organizing two oVirt workshops in Austria: Grazer Linuxtage in Graz April 4-5 and Linuxwochen Vienna, May 8-10. mskrivanek is finding someone in Brno to go over and help with the booth and workshop.
15:53:17 <bkp> The weekly Call for Papers email will be reformatted: instead of one big, long list, I will post event-specific reminders on [users] as deadlines come up.
15:53:34 <doron> #info bkp ill have a session in LinuxFest NorthWest on April 26-27 Topic: Building a community around mature software.
15:53:39 <bkp> That's the new news, unless anyone has something to add?
15:54:01 <doron> #info Rene Koch is organizing two oVirt workshops in Austria: Grazer Linuxtage in Graz April 4-5 and Linuxwochen Vienna, May 8-10.
15:54:39 <doron> #info weekly CFP updated to be reformatted.
15:54:43 <doron> bkp: thanks.
15:54:51 <doron> moving on
15:54:53 <doron> #topic other topics
15:55:04 <bkp> Got a couple of things.
15:55:07 <doron> anyone wants to discuss / raise something?
15:55:11 <bkp> Mirrors being set up (thanks dcaro!). We have one live with Duke University, and two more are coming soon, with about 6 in progress.
15:55:24 <doron> COOL
15:55:25 <bkp> And Google Summer of Code proposal review now going on. Will coordinate on 4/1
15:55:41 <doron> #info oVirt Mirrors being set up (thanks dcaro!). We have one live with Duke University, and two more are coming soon, with about 6 in progress.
15:56:13 <doron> #info  Google Summer of Code proposal review now going on. A meeting should take place on April 1st.
15:56:17 <doron> bkp: thanks
15:56:18 <bkp> That's it from me. As an aside, already coordinated with sbonazzo on tomorrow's release.
15:56:19 <doron> anyone else?
15:56:39 <doron> going once?
15:57:10 <doron> going twice...
15:57:34 * YamakasY thinks he is going to use his serverroom as fridge
15:57:48 <doron> thanks everyone for joining!
15:57:49 <doron> #endmeeting