14:03:38 <mburns> #startmeeting oVirt Weekly Meeting
14:03:38 <ovirtbot> Meeting started Wed Jun 19 14:03:38 2013 UTC.  The chair is mburns. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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14:03:45 <mburns> #chair oschreib mgoldboi1 ewoud
14:03:45 <ovirtbot> Current chairs: ewoud mburns mgoldboi1 oschreib
14:03:51 <mburns> #topic Agenda and Roll Call
14:03:57 * mburns apologizes for being late...
14:04:02 * mgoldboi1 here
14:04:19 <mburns> #chair mgoldboi
14:04:19 <ovirtbot> Current chairs: ewoud mburns mgoldboi mgoldboi1 oschreib
14:04:24 <mburns> #unchair mgoldboi1
14:04:24 <ovirtbot> Current chairs: ewoud mburns mgoldboi oschreib
14:04:35 * dustins_ntap here
14:04:44 <mburns> #info 3.2 updates
14:04:48 <mburns> #info 3.3 status review
14:04:52 * lvernia here
14:05:05 <mburns> #info infra report
14:05:10 <mburns> #info conferences and workshopts
14:05:12 <mburns> #undo
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14:05:14 <mburns> #info conferences and workshops
14:05:23 <mburns> #info Other Topics
14:05:41 * doron_ here
14:05:47 * doron here
14:06:18 <mburns> #topic 3.2 updates
14:06:29 <mburns> #info there is an updated vdsm in updates-testing:  4.10.3-17
14:06:42 <mburns> is there anything blocking pushing this to stable?
14:07:14 <mburns> fsimonce: danken:  ^^
14:07:39 <mburns> #info ovirt-node update will be built this week and posted ASAP
14:07:54 <danken> mburns: I think that it simply lacks some karma in bodhi.
14:07:56 <danken> dougsland: ?^^^
14:09:05 <dougsland> mburns, you meant on ovirt-stable repo right ?
14:09:09 <mburns> dougsland: yes
14:09:45 <dougsland> mburns, from my side nothing, danken ? On Fedora there is no votes yet (to move to stable)
14:10:07 <mburns> dougsland: no known issues?  so we can probably push to stable this week
14:10:23 <dougsland> mburns, I don't see any report.
14:10:38 <mburns> #action mburns to push vdsm from updates-testing to stable
14:11:03 <mburns> #action mburns to follow-up on getting ovirt-node respin built with vdsm.
14:11:20 <mburns> any other issues with 3.2 that we might need an update for?
14:11:39 <mgoldboi> mburns: yes
14:11:57 <mgoldboi> mburns: there are some complains on 3.1->3.2 upgrade on fedora not supported
14:12:20 <mgoldboi> mburns: alourie is trying to assist on solving it
14:12:30 <mburns> mgoldboi: ok
14:12:36 <mburns> no fix pending yet?
14:12:49 <mgoldboi> mburns: but since the amount of interest from the community is low - it'll probably be a KB
14:12:49 <alourie> mburns: no real fix, but documentation of the process
14:12:55 <alourie> yes
14:13:29 <mburns> ok
14:13:46 <mburns> #info some complaints about lack of upgrade from 3.1->3.2 on fedora
14:13:54 <mburns> #info alourie is working on documenting the process
14:14:00 <mburns> #info likely no code fix
14:14:20 <mburns> ok, anything else on 3.2?
14:15:22 <mburns> ok, on to 3.3
14:15:29 <mburns> #topic 3.3 status
14:16:31 <mburns> #info features without target dates and release priority that aren't complete are getting dropped from tracking
14:17:15 <mburns> #info Virt features
14:17:18 <mgoldboi> mburns: feature completeness wouldn't allow us to get to feature freeze
14:17:37 <mgoldboi> mburns: suggestion - postpone feature freeze in 2 weeks
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14:18:21 <mburns> mgoldboi: feature freeze is currently set for Jul 1
14:18:22 <mgoldboi> mburns: sorry for jumping ... :)
14:18:31 <mburns> mgoldboi: so we're not going to hit that?
14:18:53 <mgoldboi> mburns: don't think so - but you're right let's review team by team first
14:19:03 <mburns> #link http://www.ovirt.org/OVirt_3.3_release-management
14:19:05 <mburns> ok
14:19:09 <mburns> starting with
14:19:12 <mburns> #info Virt Team
14:19:23 <mburns> #info Feature RAM Snapshots
14:19:34 <mburns> #info status: orange
14:19:34 <mgoldboi> ofrenkel: any updates here?
14:19:50 <mburns> #info target date:  17-Jun
14:20:11 <mburns> #info priority:  unset
14:22:12 <yzaslavs> hi, i represent infra features
14:22:31 <mburns> no one here from virt team?
14:22:37 <mgoldboi> mburns: let's skip virt - no rep.
14:22:45 <mburns> ok, then on to infra
14:22:52 <doron> ofrenkel: ping?
14:22:53 <mburns> #info Infra Features
14:23:03 <mgoldboi> mburns: please add it to the meeting minutes
14:23:11 <mburns> #undo
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14:23:20 <mburns> #info skipping virt since no rep available
14:23:22 <mburns> #info Infra Features
14:23:33 <mburns> #info Feature:  Device Custom Properties
14:23:38 <mburns> #info status: green
14:23:54 <mburns> #info Feature:  Async task manager
14:24:05 <mburns> #info status: Orange
14:24:26 <mburns> yzaslavs: any updates on that feature?  ^^
14:24:33 <mburns> #info priority:  should
14:24:39 <mburns> #info target date:  unset
14:25:21 <mgoldboi> yzaslavs: any updates on those features?
14:26:21 <mburns> yzaslavs: or updates on External Tasks or supervdsm service ?
14:26:27 <yzaslavs> mburns, mgoldboi: device custom properties is merged. it used for vnic.
14:26:59 <yzaslavs> mburns, mgoldboi: async task mgr - in progress, code is written, being reviewed and basic sanity is done.
14:27:17 <yzaslavs> mburn, mgoldboi: external tasks - code is being written and reviewed, still in progress.
14:27:24 <mgoldboi> yzaslavs: ETA is updated in the table?
14:27:43 <mburns> external tasks says 6-Jun for target...
14:27:53 <yzaslavs> mgoldboi: no, i will talk with feature owners and update
14:28:14 <yzaslavs> mburns: yes, we had some unexpected issues, i will talk with feature owner (emesika) to change this
14:28:30 <mburns> ok, how about the supervdsm service?
14:28:35 <mburns> yzaslavs: ^
14:29:45 <yzaslavs> mburns: will give u answer in
14:29:55 <yzaslavs> mburns: oops, sorry, the feature is in, merged.
14:30:04 <mburns> supervdsm is in?
14:30:08 <yzaslavs> mburns: yes.
14:30:08 <mburns> terrific
14:30:24 <mgoldboi> yzaslavs: please make sure table is updated for infra with current status
14:30:36 <yzaslavs> mgoldboi: no prob. emailing feature owners ASAP
14:30:41 <mburns> yzaslavs: thanks
14:31:17 <mburns> #info Task manager under final review, no issues
14:31:29 <mburns> #info Feature:  External Tasks
14:31:38 <mburns> #info Status Orange -- still in development
14:31:43 <mburns> #info target date still pending
14:31:57 <mburns> #action yzaslavs to followup with new target date
14:32:07 <mburns> ok, on to Networking
14:32:26 <mburns> #info Networking Features
14:32:45 <mburns> #info Normalized ovirtmgmt Initialization
14:32:51 <mburns> #info Complete
14:33:02 <mburns> #info Migration Network
14:33:05 <mburns> #info Complete
14:33:17 <mburns> #info Quantum Integration
14:33:30 <apuimedo> mburns: Multiple Gateways is just solving some bugs and undergoing review
14:33:52 <apuimedo> mburns: some funny race conditions with dhcp...
14:33:54 <mburns> #info status:  Orange
14:34:09 <mburns> apuimedo: what about quantum integration?
14:34:30 <apuimedo> mburns: it should be ready by tomorrow end of the day
14:34:37 <apuimedo> but I didn't ask for update today
14:34:52 <mburns> #info Quantum Integration should get merged in coming days
14:35:15 <mburns> #info Multiple Gateways
14:35:35 <mburns> #info in final review, status Orange
14:35:49 <mburns> apuimedo: Network Reloaded?
14:36:09 <apuimedo> mburns: It got three more patches in
14:36:17 <mburns> #info Network Reloaded
14:36:28 <mburns> #info status:  progress, not a blocker for release
14:36:32 <apuimedo> it is only missing some optional persistence work for cross-distro
14:36:40 <apuimedo> (unified persistence it is called)
14:36:42 <mburns> apuimedo: ack
14:36:49 <mburns> ok, anything else for networking?
14:37:00 <apuimedo> mburns: work will be resumed on unified persistence next week
14:37:05 <apuimedo> mburns: no, nothing else
14:37:10 <apuimedo> mburns: thanks
14:37:12 <mburns> ok, then on to storage
14:37:16 <mburns> apuimedo: thanks for the update
14:37:20 <mburns> #topic Storage features
14:37:24 <apuimedo> mburns: you're welcome
14:38:04 <mburns> anyone here from the storage team?
14:38:56 <mgoldboi> amureini: ping^^
14:39:18 <mburns> most storage features are marked optional, so we can probably skip over them
14:39:36 <mburns> manage storage connections is a must and has a "Red" status
14:39:47 <mburns> with a target date of 30-Jun, so i'd like an update
14:40:01 <mburns> but we can come back to it
14:40:04 <amureini> mburns, yes, hi. manager storage connections is the only things that we're concern about.
14:40:18 <mburns> amureini: ok, still on track for 30-Jun?
14:40:18 <amureini> mburns, sincerely doubt it will make jun-30
14:40:26 <amureini> mburns, see abovr
14:40:29 <amureini> *above
14:40:34 <mburns> amureini: any feel for when it will be done?
14:42:14 <amureini> mburns, I'd ballpark it for mid july
14:42:44 <mburns> #info Storage features
14:42:57 <mburns> #info manage storage connections -- RED, target mid-july
14:43:06 <mburns> #info must-have feature
14:43:11 <mburns> amureini: ok, thanks
14:43:27 <mburns> doron_: how are SLA features going?
14:43:44 <doron_> mburns: similar to what we had so far-
14:43:50 <doron_> watchdog is mostly merged.
14:44:07 <doron_> missing just the rest patch which is being reviewed.
14:44:18 <mburns> #info SLA features
14:44:26 <doron_> we have scheduler and scheduling API being developed in parallel
14:44:32 <mburns> #info Watchdog -- mostly merged, final patch in review
14:45:02 <mburns> doron_: any eta on them?
14:45:03 <doron_> but still not there- both scheduling tasks need additional 2 weeks.
14:45:19 <doron_> mburns: since very sensitive
14:45:28 <doron_> we need to properly test it as well.
14:45:32 <doron_> prior to merging
14:45:42 <mburns> doron_: as in, ready in 2 weeks? or 2 weeks beyond their current target?
14:45:58 <mburns> (target is currently 1-July
14:46:00 <doron_> mburns: mid july
14:46:05 <mburns> doron_: ok
14:46:14 <mburns> doron_: how about QoS?
14:46:35 <doron_> mburns: same eta- vdsm patches ion. work on engine is in progress.
14:46:41 <mburns> #info Scheduler and schedule API -- still in development, target mid-july
14:46:58 <mburns> #info QoS target mid-july
14:47:11 <mburns> doron_: ok, how comfortable are you in those dates?
14:47:22 <mburns> doron_: are they likely to slip beyond?
14:47:44 <doron_> mburns: not entirely, but we may have a few bz's to resolve.
14:48:33 <mburns> doron_: are they likely to be merged and just need some bug fixes that can go into a final RC?
14:48:46 <doron_> mburns: that is correct.
14:48:58 <mburns> doron_: ok
14:49:12 <mburns> #info SLA features should at least be feature complete by mid july
14:49:38 <mburns> ok, moving on
14:49:51 <mburns> #info Gluster Swift -- dropped
14:50:01 <mburns> #info Gluster Hooks -- status orange
14:50:07 <mburns> any updates on this? ^^
14:50:55 <mburns> mgoldboi: who is the contact for this?
14:52:02 <mgoldboi> mburns: Sahina
14:52:15 <mgoldboi> mburns: don't see her in...
14:52:21 <mburns> ok
14:52:30 <mburns> #info no gluster contact online
14:52:38 <mburns> #info Node Features
14:52:47 <mburns> #info Universal Node:  Status:  Complete
14:52:53 <mgoldboi> mburns: who is updating here? :)
14:53:32 <mburns> #info Node VDSM plugin:  mostly complete, can be finalized quickly once we need beta/test images
14:53:37 <mburns> mgoldboi: updating what?
14:53:50 <mburns> bah...
14:53:54 <mburns> oftc--
14:54:10 <mburns> mgoldboi: updating what?
14:54:24 <mgoldboi> mburns: on node.. bad joke..
14:54:30 <mburns> mgoldboi: ah, ok
14:54:48 <mburns> #info Integration features
14:55:20 <mburns> #info Feature Self Hosted Engine -- Status: Red
14:55:28 <mburns> mgoldboi: is this you? or oschreib_ ?
14:55:38 * oschreib_ here
14:55:38 <mgoldboi> mburns: me...me
14:56:14 <mburns> mgoldboi: ok, self hosted engine and otopi infra migration
14:56:30 <mburns> both list 20-Jun as a target
14:56:32 <mgoldboi> mburns: hosted engine - upgrade almost there
14:56:34 <mburns> is that still accurate?
14:56:49 <mgoldboi> mburns: target date was updated to Jun 29th
14:57:22 <mburns> ok, /me refreshes
14:57:37 <mburns> mgoldboi: self-hosted looks like it's now 15-Jul?
14:57:38 <mgoldboi> mburns:sorry- hosted engine - mid june
14:57:55 <mgoldboi> mburns: otopi migration - Jun 29th
14:57:57 <doron_mtg> mgoldboi: you mean mid july
14:58:06 <mgoldboi> mburns: table is updated , and yes
14:58:21 <mgoldboi> mid july
14:58:33 <mburns> mgoldboi: are those comfortable dates?
14:58:39 <mgoldboi> mburns: yes
14:58:54 <mburns> excellent, i thought self-hosted engine was going to get deferred
14:59:10 <mgoldboi> mburns: we are focusing on 2 different parts
14:59:31 <mgoldboi> mburns: the bootstrap should be ready - HA not sure
14:59:37 <mburns> mgoldboi: ok
14:59:59 <mburns> #info self-hosted should be done mid-july
15:00:10 <mburns> #info otopi migration should be end of June
15:00:18 <mburns> ok, on to UX features
15:00:34 <mburns> #info User portal IE8 performance -- Complete
15:00:42 <doron_mtg> mgoldboi: mburns ha plan on hosted engine is mid july if all goes well...
15:00:48 <mburns> doron_mtg: ok
15:01:09 <mburns> any updates on branding support and frontend refactor?
15:02:43 <mburns> mgoldboi: ^^
15:03:17 <mgoldboi> vszocs: any updates on UX?
15:04:50 <mgoldboi> mburns: let's continue...
15:05:05 <mburns> #info no UX person available
15:05:45 <mburns> so looking at this, we have a number of Should and Must features not finishing until mid July
15:06:20 <mburns> #idea delay feature freeze until 17-July and GA until 14-Aug
15:06:35 <mburns> #idea beta shipped 17-July or ASAP after
15:06:46 <mburns> RC around 1-Aug
15:06:55 <mgoldboi> mburns: +1
15:06:56 <mburns> #idea RC around 1-Aug
15:07:14 <mburns> any objections?
15:07:52 <mburns> #agreed on new dates
15:08:03 <mburns> mgoldboi: can you update the dates on the wiki?
15:08:30 <mgoldboi> mburns: sure
15:08:58 <vszocs> mgoldboi: sorry for late response, I have some updates if it's still relevant
15:09:08 <mburns> vszocs: sure
15:09:25 <vszocs> mgoldboi, mburns: UX update:
15:09:50 <vszocs> branding support - merged and working, default ovirt branding externalized as separate package
15:10:01 <vszocs> frontend refactor - still in progress
15:10:05 <mburns> vszocs: excellent
15:10:14 <vszocs> upgrade GWT version - still in progress
15:10:17 <mburns> vszocs: any eta on the frontend refactor?
15:10:42 <mburns> upgrade gwt version is currently not listed as a feature
15:10:50 <mburns> vszocs: can you add it to the wiki?
15:11:00 <mburns> #info branding support is complete
15:11:27 <mburns> #info frontend refactor and upgrade GWT version are in progress
15:11:37 <vszocs> mburns: not sure about ETA on frontend refactor, no upstream patch yet, not sure if we make it till 3.3 ff
15:12:03 <mburns> #info no eta on frontend refactor yet
15:12:42 <vszocs> mburns: sure, which wiki can I update regarding GWT version upgrade?
15:12:51 <mburns> http://www.ovirt.org/OVirt_3.3_release-management
15:12:54 <vszocs> ok
15:13:09 <mburns> ok, moving on
15:13:15 <mburns> #topic Infra update
15:13:20 <mburns> ewoud: any highlights this week?
15:14:21 * mgoldboi have to go - release page updated with dates - catch all later on
15:14:40 <mburns> mgoldboi: thanks
15:14:52 <mburns> #info see infra minutes for highlights
15:14:59 <mburns> #topic Conferences and Workshops
15:15:06 <mburns> #info Red Hat Summit was last week
15:15:45 <mburns> #info there was an oVirt booth there staffed primarily by theron and ecohen (and mburns for one day)
15:16:04 <mburns> #info lots of traffic, good questions, and a number of followups from theron afterwards
15:16:33 <mburns> #info other conferences coming up, but we'll go into details next week when there is more time
15:16:44 <mburns> #topic Other Topics
15:16:47 <mburns> anything else?
15:18:02 <mburns> going once...
15:18:38 <mburns> twice..
15:19:03 <mburns> gone.
15:19:06 <mburns> Thanks all
15:19:08 <mburns> #endmeeting