23:49:33 <quaid> #startmeeting
23:49:33 <ovirtbot> Meeting started Fri Jul 13 23:49:33 2012 UTC.  The chair is quaid. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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23:49:53 <quaid> #meetingname linode01.ovirt.org resize, reboot, and such journal
23:49:53 <ovirtbot> The meeting name has been set to 'linode01.ovirt.org_resize,_reboot,_and_such_journal'
23:50:04 <quaid> https://library.linode.com/disk-images-config-profiles#sph_resizing-a-disk-image
23:50:14 * RobertM here
23:50:19 * quaid here too :D
23:50:26 <quaid> just figured I'd take advantage of the logging
23:50:40 <quaid> auto-document where you can
23:50:49 <quaid> steps I'm about to follow:
23:50:51 <RobertM> always a good thing
23:51:10 <quaid> 1. backup the mysql database, copy offsite
23:51:29 <quaid> 2. ... mising anything here before ...
23:51:38 <quaid> 3. shutdown Linode via Linode panel
23:51:47 <quaid> 4. resize via Linode panel as per https://library.linode.com/disk-images-config-profiles#sph_resizing-a-disk-image
23:51:51 <quaid> 5. reboot
23:51:53 <quaid> ...
23:51:53 <ovirtbot> quaid: Error: ".." is not a valid command.
23:51:56 <quaid> profit!
23:52:20 <RobertM> slashdot will live forever :)
23:52:24 <quaid> 2.1 - fix the stupid command syntax for ovirtbot so that leading with . isn't the command, and is picked up on reboot
23:52:49 <RobertM> :)
23:54:56 * RobertM .5 worked with mike to clean 500 megs of space to give a little breathing room
23:56:15 <quaid> yeah, it's been too tight for too long
23:56:26 <quaid> the whole thing was supposed to be temporary ... in Aug 2011
23:57:05 <quaid> but you know, it's worked, and now just when we need to expand, we have people offering VMs, internal Jenkins, new stuff from interested corps, so ... no worries :)
23:57:36 <RobertM> Two laws of Computers.  Everything is Temporary, and Temporary is your lifetime :)
23:57:43 * quaid lol
23:58:09 <quaid> third law of my computer lif is, "There are cables, and you will crawl around to plug/unplug them."
23:58:54 <RobertM> lol last weekend my entire home network died.  Not sure why to now.  I ended up having to rewrite my entire network to get everything working.
23:59:27 * quaid in the middle of a "massive for home" renetworking - trying to resolve a decade of lessons
23:59:33 <RobertM> I think I had 2 cables that got bumped on 2 diff switches that took out everything but the wireless.
23:59:44 <quaid> it's only two APs and one ceiling to drill through, but you know ...
00:00:07 <quaid> ok, I'm declaring that order of steps good, since we haven't thunk of anything further
00:00:14 <RobertM> 1 AP.  5 switches.  4 cables that go under the house.
00:00:24 <RobertM> Agreed
00:00:31 <quaid> so many switches!
00:00:51 <RobertM> 4 Cables that go under the house :)
00:01:06 <RobertM> Each breaks out into a room with a switch.
00:02:31 <RobertM> Would I have liked running like 10 pairs and doing straight cable Yes.  Did I have that much cable at the time and the switches were just Temporary until I could run more lines.  10 Years ago.
00:10:07 <quaid> #info supybot.reply.whenAddressedBy.chars: is the value to set for what supybot (aka ovirtbot) is addressed by
00:12:47 <quaid> and now I'm stymied thinking of a good command prefix
00:13:02 <quaid> using '.' ran in to ... leading lines
00:13:19 <quaid> really, what do we want to use to prefix a line that is a command to OUR bot
00:13:29 * quaid leaves that question open whilst he backups database
00:13:45 <RobertM> ? or #
00:14:01 <RobertM> If only one char
00:15:04 <quaid> we can do multiple
00:16:35 <RobertM> $#
00:16:43 <RobertM> Or #?
00:21:48 <quaid> #? has some intuitiveness to it
00:21:52 <quaid> it's both a comment and a question
00:22:02 <RobertM> Yep
00:22:57 <quaid> #info /root/bin/snapshot.sh runs all backup scripts to configured directories, for quick snapshots and offsite backups outside of crontab
00:24:30 <RobertM> quaid, Did you see my email about repo's?
00:24:41 <quaid> ^o_)^
00:25:17 <quaid> yes, I think I've read all the threads
00:25:27 <quaid> ah, repo structure?
00:25:44 <quaid> ... which happens to be the one I'm least qualified to comment on :)
00:25:44 <ovirtbot> quaid: Error: ".." is not a valid command.
00:25:54 <quaid> ovirtbot: not long now, mate
00:25:54 <ovirtbot> quaid: Error: "not" is not a valid command.
00:26:54 <quaid> not for long
00:28:25 <jclift> Quick question guys, going to try out oVirt 3.1 again this wkend.  The iso file's workable at this point isn't it?
00:28:34 <jclift> (for node part that is)
00:29:24 <RobertM> jclift, Yes but it has poorly tested
00:29:33 <jclift> "one way to find out" :)
00:33:12 <quaid> zomg, I just got bit by the "my local $PATH usually includes that" mistake
00:35:58 <RobertM> Well the 1st thing I did when logging in was to tweak .bashrc
00:36:14 <quaid> :D
00:36:22 <quaid> yeah, I often forget
00:36:52 <RobertM> I need to get a standard EL6 .bash file.  I have one for Debian
00:37:02 <quaid> not as much an in-practice sysadmin to remember enough of the necessary tweaks
00:37:15 * quaid also really needs to get his RHCE updated
00:37:33 <RobertM> Robert really needs to get his RHCE :)
00:38:41 <RobertM> I have been using linux since 1996 but never got any kind of Cert for it since that takes $$$
00:38:53 <jclift> (or time)
00:39:16 <RobertM> $$$ is more an issue then time.
00:39:39 <jclift> Yeah, varies here. :(
00:39:47 <jclift> $$$ is definitely an issue recently.
00:40:14 <RobertM> My current job would give me the time off with pay to take a cert like RHEV but I would have to cover all the costs.
00:41:13 <RobertM> *RHCE
00:41:17 <jclift> Heh.  The other way (better!) to prove you have RHEV skills is be a well known contributing member of the RHEV/oVirt Community.
00:41:24 <jclift> For example, having your name all over screencasts.
00:41:27 <jclift> Just saying. :)
00:41:37 <jclift> s/over screencasts/over the official screencasts.
00:41:40 <jclift> /
00:41:42 <jclift> :)
00:42:24 <quaid> #info mysql backup done
00:42:36 <quaid> shutdown coming now
00:42:46 <quaid> last shout for "wait, savign"
00:44:07 <RobertM> Nope sounds like you are ready
00:44:37 <RobertM> You can clone the drive before updating the space.
00:44:53 <RobertM> Then once you confirm it is working fine you can kill the clone
00:45:43 <quaid> autobackup hit 31 min ago, no changes since then
00:46:12 <RobertM> ok
00:46:47 * quaid issues shutdown
00:47:21 <quaid> I'll see what the clone means in terms of disk space, since I want to use that space as-is to increase size to